Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Realistic prices are retuning

[Erik Nielsen (judge4re]

My take on the Keynsesian view:

The long term view of value is misleading to guide current Ferrari pricing.  In the long run, we're all dead.

On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 1:15 PM Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:

This is my biggest concern about my 308 and that really isn’t an “old”car.

 

Although, it’s just metal. Anything can be replicated (and made better)... At a cost.

 

I know you love your 575 and they are truly fantastic cars, but what worries me for long-term, future use and collectability of these modern classics are not the mechanical bits crapping out, but all of the electronics.

 

It’s one thing to adapt an older carbureted car to modern fuel injection and be done with it, but, with the modern car’s fully integrated OBD systems, if one of those ECUs crap out, you’re done. I think you mentioned that if you jump-start a 456/550, you stand a good chance of frying the air bag ECU and those are NLA.

 

Again, computers are computers and it could be made to work, but it would be a bigger challenge.

 

Peter

 

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Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Realistic prices are retuning

 

The major issue with all the old stuff is keeping them running 

And if a gearbox goes south.....

Or a differential.....

 

Clyde Romero

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On Aug 6, 2019, at 6:29 PM, Brian Keegan <bks281 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:

Have you ever driven a 330GTC? Or a 365GTC? Fabulous cars!

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On Aug 6, 2019, at 5:27 PM, Hans E. Hansen <FList [at] hanshansen.org> wrote:

I had a shot at a 330GTC for $60k back when I bought my 308GT4 in 2003ish.

Still kicking myself.

Hans.

On 8/6/19, Lashdeep Singh via Ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> wrote:

I would like a restored 2+2 for 2007 money...

On Aug 6, 2019, at 16:28, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:

The issue with the 60's 2+2s are the survival numbers are low.  Plenty

have been parted out or rebodied.  They are not as common as the numbers

lead you to believe.

Unlike a GTO where 68 of the original 36 survived...

On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 1:13 PM <cmlf1 [at] optonline.net> wrote:

What I am surprised mostly is the lack of correction on 60’s 2+2 cars, as

they  haven't crashed back to reality yet. These were so undesirable for

so long then they multiplied and many got big dollar restorations.

when they come back to reality  there should be some great cars for

reasonable money.

Sent from my iPhone- Please excuse brevity or typographical errors.

On Aug 6, 2019, at 2:02 PM, Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com>

wrote:

Anyone who bought high is going to get burned. These “modern classics”

were run up too high to begin with. Granted, the manuals will command a

premium for a number of years to come, but $600K+ for a 6-spd 599?

$400K+ for a 575 Superamerica?

What I’d be curious to know, will this affect the prices of the older

classics? TRs have dropped significantly, but I haven’t seen big

movement in the 308/328 series... And Enzo-era cars?...

Peter

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Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Realistic prices are retuning

The guys who are going to get burned are the 550 guys who bought high

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On Aug 5, 2019, at 11:37 PM, Hans E. Hansen <FList [at] hanshansen.org>

wrote:

A guy I know on another forum just bought a NEW 2018 Maserati GT for

about $60k under MSRP. $150K car for $90k.

Hans.

On Mon, Aug 5, 2019, 5:16 PM Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/05/car-dealers-struggle-to-sell-2018-new-car-inventory-to-make-room-for-2020-cars.html

Keep your powder dry...

On Aug 5, 2019, at 6:02 PM, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:

Just wait until there is a stock market correction.  Then we will

have real price discovery.

On Aug 5, 2019, at 5:43 PM, Clarence Romero Jr.

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