Just watched the Rio film and it was very good. It gives a much more candid look at the band without the preparation of an “official” interview situation.
It was a good reminder that the guys are rockstars first! I like Geddy nipping at the cameraman when he lost his shoes.
Very, very cool...
Alex must be a total riot when he is in party mode.
That Snyder interview of Kiss is legendary!
Yes, the Rush In Rio documentary is short, about 25-30 minutes iirc, and was done by their late long-time photographer, Andrew McNaughton (I have a print from him, signed by Neil!). A glimpse behind the scenes of the end of their "come-back" Vapor Trails
tour. Three shows in Brazil (Porto Alegre, Sao Paulo, and Rio) to some of the largest audiences (40-60K) they ever played for (as a headliner - 490K at the Toronto Rocks show, but they were followed by AC/DC and the Rolling Stones). And yes, "Time Stand
Still" is another terrific documentary - filmed on, and about, their final tour
I have read Paul Stanley's autobio, but it's been a while... I don't recall exactly what he said about Rush, but I vividly recall that he was not especially flattering to his other two bandmates (Gene excluded). Did you ever see the video of all four
of them on some late night talk show (Tom Snyder, perhaps??)? Ace and Peter seemed very, uhhhh, "out of it" (read, drunk) and were in exceptionally rare form - much to the chagrin of Gene and Paul. It was actually pretty funny, but they (Gene and Paul) were
certainly not laughing!
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George, I need to get some more Rush documentaries like the one you mention and “Time Stand Still”.
Alex does appear to be quite a comedian and a fun guy overall. Apparently he and Geddy got pretty lit up and merry during those years...as they should have!
They were rockstars after all.
From Rob’s story and from the numerous books I have read, they hung out A LOT together.
You should read some of the Kiss biographical releases. They mention the bands they hung out with, which were quite numerous, but always spend extra time and detail talking about Rush.
And vice versa...
Alex and Geddy always have a lot to say about how well they got treated by them when they were just unknowns from Canada.
Three longtime pals below?
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Lashdeep,
Thanks and fair enough, I'll stand corrected. My "...learned what *not* to do...." comment refers to "off-stage", though it sounds from the clip you included that they were as wild as the Kiss guys.
Another restaurant scene that's great is when the woman is begging Geddy for an autograph and completely ignoring Alex - despite Geddy's saying "you really need to get his autograph, too..." (or words to that effect). She was totally oblivious to Alex
sitting there.
Love that clip - and had forgotten about it. I talked with Howard a couple of times at shows - super nice guy. He was with them for their whole career.
In the documentary attached to the Rush In Rio DVD, Geddy called Alex "not only the funniest man I know, but the funniest man I ever *will* know." I think it shows in that clip.
Thanks!
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George, good recommendation on that Rush documentary on Netflix. I try to watch it at least once a year and it is still amazing every time I see it.
I love the restaurant scene at the end where they all have a wine soaked dinner together.
“Very close” are actually Rush’s words describing their times with Kiss and not mine!
Rush credit Kiss for showing them how to work hard to entertain the fans. Alex and Geddy always mention how much they learned from them during their early years.
This clip is great -
Lashdeep,
Watch the Rush "Beyond The Lighted Stage" documentary - Gene Simmons talks about it. I think they had a mutual respect musically back in those days (though Rush eventually far exceeded anything Kiss ever did, musically speaking), as well as a lot of
goofy "fun" times - they just seemed to get along well, despite their wildly different styles. But Rush has said (well, Neil and Geddy at least) that by touring with Kiss, they learned what *not* to do.
That said, I think "very close friends" might be a bit of a stretch, but your point is well taken.
BTW - another that Rush (or Neil, anyway) liked is my other favorite band - Kansas. Neil often included Kansas' "Journey From Mariabronn" (an awesome piece of music if there ever was one - and from their very *first* album!) in the Rush pre-show "mix-tape".
Neil had great respect for Kansas drummer Phil Ehart.
FWIW, YMMV, yadda yadda....
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p.s. - Alice Cooper is another with an intense respect and admiration for Rush - he called them "musician's musicians".
Rob, can you shed any light on the curious affinity Rush and Kiss had for each other?
They were very close friends to the shock of many Rush fans...
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