Ferrari Mailing List: Looking up at shadows !!!

[Clarence Romero Jr. (clyderomerof4]

At the weapons school at Nellis if you didn’t scare yourself once a week ( it was a 6 months course) you weren’t going to graduate!

You pressed harder than in combat 

I think anyway 

Glad those days are behind me 

My hands still shake when I think how close I came to the ground over Belted Peak 

     RF4-4EVR

Scars are Tattoos with better stories !

If you have no enemies, you have no character !

Clyde Romero    

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On Mar 30, 2020, at 1:07 PM, Luke Graves <buyer1 [at] airmail.net> wrote:

 Well, Doug, there is an old and now almost trite saying:  There are old
pilots and bold pilots, but, there are no old bold pilots.

Clyde and Rick: I was thinking of Bevo Howard or Scott Crossfield!

-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas Anderson [mailto:dnt [at] dock.net]
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 11:32 AM
To: 'Luke Graves'
Subject: RE: [Ferrari] Ferrari Digest, Vol 164, Issue 119

Heh heh - as Sterling Moss once said - "I've never gone into a corner scared
but have come out of plenty of them scared."
The SR71 pilot and motivational speaker who wrote the book "Sled Driver"
tells the tale - he plead to go up with the Blue Angles and ride back seat
while they practiced.  He got to.  Afterward, he remarked to driver - boy
some of those move were really close calls - you scared me twice.  Pilot
replies - oh yeah?  I scared myself three times!
:  )
Cheers
Doug

-----Original Message-----
From: Luke Graves <buyer1 [at] airmail.net>
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 8:53 AM
To: 'Douglas Anderson' <dnt [at] dock.net>
Subject: RE: [Ferrari] Ferrari Digest, Vol 164, Issue 119

I've been there!

-----Original Message-----
From: Ferrari [mailto:ferrari-bounces+buyer1=airmail.net [at] ferrarilist.com] On
Behalf Of Douglas Anderson
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 3:33 PM
To: Col Luke Graves
Cc: 'The FerrariList'
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari Digest, Vol 164, Issue 119

Three most dangerous situations . . to pilots

1) out of energy
2) out of altitude
3) out of ideas

Cheers
Doug

-----Original Message-----
From: Ferrari <ferrari-bounces+dnt=dock.net [at] ferrarilist.com> On Behalf Of
George's Mail
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 1:29 PM
To: DOUG <dnt [at] dock.net>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari Digest, Vol 164, Issue 119

Re:The 3 most dangerous things known to man !

Doctors, sure, but lawyers are not far behind. When I was flying, lawyers
were always always arguing with the tower. One in particular, on approach in
the dark, argued about his altitude all the way into ground, killing his
whole family.

George


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Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 6:16 AM
To: George Dodson
Subject: Ferrari Digest, Vol 164, Issue 119

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  1. Re: The 3 most dangerous things known to man !
     (Robert W. Garven Jr.)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 21:28:30 -0700
From: "Robert W. Garven Jr." <rgarven [at] gmail.com>
To: "Clarence Romero Jr." <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] The 3 most dangerous things known to man !
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I respect all of you pilots I have a Ferrari buddy who is a flight
instructor and we flew in a small single engine airplane with another flight
instructor they let me fly the plane for like five minutes or so, even
though I?ve never had any formal instruction.

I?ve always wanted to fly and I felt pretty comfortable and I told the guy
sitting to my right hey I think I could land this, and he said I know you
could but probably not in one piece!

Rob

That said I landed the space shuttle at night on my phone....

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 28, 2020, at 5:20 PM, Clarence Romero Jr.

<clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com>

wrote:

?I had the best of both worlds

I flew fighters until I was 42 !

Most guys couldn?t say that

I enjoyed my airline career

I still get messages from crews I worked with

Clyde Romero

If you have no enemies

You have no character !

Scars are tattoos with better stories!

When you're out of F-4's you're out of fighters!

On Mar 28, 2020, at 7:49 PM, Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net> wrote:

?

Amen, Brother. Me too.  No offense to cLyDe, but I had no desire to

be a flying bus driver or a flying truck driver.

Nostalgia works.  I didn't get my full measure, but I got enough.

On Saturday, March 28, 2020, 4:32:38 PM PDT, Luke Graves

<buyer1 [at] airmail.net> wrote:

Didn't realize that Crossfield was dead!  When I quit flying

Fighters, I quit flying.  People have always asked me if I missed

flying.  My reply is that no, I am just nostalgic about it!  I had my

full measure.

Besides, I have much more fun sticking my 360 than farting around in

some Cessna!

From: Ferrari

[mailto:ferrari-bounces+buyer1=airmail.net [at] ferrarilist.com]

On Behalf Of dan carroll

Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 6:17 PM

To: Col Luke Graves

Cc: The FerrariList

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] The 3 most dangerous things known to man !

General aviation can be dangerous. Scott Crossfield crash is a good

example.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 28, 2020, at 17:16, Allan Chong <allanychong [at] gmail.com> wrote:

?

From: "Clarence Romero Jr." <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com> What are the 3

most dangerous things known to man A doctor in a bonanza An Arab in

an F-15 A flight attendant with a chipped tooth!

My friend (who has 2 dr. parents) calls all light twins Dr Killers.  

it's the combination of only flying once a month (because of

workload) in a plane that requires immediate corrective action on

engine failure.

toss in something like IFR or high density altitude mtn airstrips or

loading to gross and you've got a recipe for disaster.

In the airlines, you're sitting in a sim every few weeks training

for that blue line engine failure your entire life.  Probably

1 in 100 doctors is doing that.  They'd be better finding flight

instructors trying to build twin time to fly for them (another

friend owned a twin and did just that--he had pretty much a free

personal pilot and free gas every time he went up)

allan

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