Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Ok I am not being crass, but....

[Douglas Anderson (dnt]

Thanks Lash

That was pretty cool.  Yeah, the Targa (that race named the Porsche Targa) is a VERY curvy track.  I have neve seen it in person but a number of acquaintances rode with Redman and a few others.  Their words . . NEVER do that just after eating anything – you’ll see it again.  The tree passengers I know all got pretty sea sick – just goes with the job they said. 

 

On my system Brian Redman took the 908-3 around Laguna Seca in a car I believe owned by Miles Collier.  In any case – I sold my 10529 356 to Miles in about 1976 or so.  I advertised it and he wrote me on a post card with smallest most intricate lettering inquiring about the cars availability.  Yep – still is.  Fine he says, I’d like to have someone take a look at it and if it is as you say it is I’ll buy it.  Fair enough.  So I asked him for some earnest money – sure and he sends me a $100 personal check.  At that time I had NO IDEA who he was.  Turned out he was the 13^th richest person on Forbes Top 500. His dad developed Collier County Florida.  A BIG county adjacent of Miami on the Gulf of Mexico side. Nice guy.

 

Thanks for the clip – it kinda reminds me of the Mexican Carrera Panamericana road race: 9 stages, 5 days.  Watching movies of 1954 Lincolns negotiating 90 degree turns in small Mexican towns at racing speeds – without hitting anything!!  They ran it again maybe 10 or so years ago.  Our Ferrari tech entered it in a hopped up 1954 Ford and finished it.  Good ol Bill – he’s driven in the Peking to Paris race and the Mille Miglia.  That race is a hoot.  When you stop to think about the name in a metric country – 1000 Mile race – well, it’s so Italian anyway.

 

Thanks again Lash – nice time travel trip.

Doug

 

From: Lashdeep Singh <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 5:40 PM
To: Douglas Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net>
Cc: ferrari list <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ok I am not being crass, but....

 

Doug, do you remember the clip of Brian Redman sliding the 914-6 GT around the Targa Florio course on a non-race day?

 

https://youtu.be/PkojP5Dyj5Y

 

That was super cool to see.

 

Yes, they got the engine placement right on that one!

On Sep 4, 2020, at 03:12, Douglas Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net> wrote:



OK OK – go back a few years . . . . um, like 50 to 1970.  And the Porsche – Ferrari Road and Track articles or what ever.

 

Porsche did there thing with VW and came out with the 914 four cylinder and priced it so . . . . get this . . . . girls could afford it.

At the same time Ferrari came out with a new Ferrari . . . uhhhh, no, it was a Dino.  A “Dino”?  and for the Hoi Polloi who thought “Named after Fred Flintstones pet dinosaur?”

                                          

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Dino

What a catch.  No prancing Ferrari horse, no “Ferrari” script no where – just Dino.  Yawn.  Six cylinders?  Ah well, this is Ferrari’s equivalent to Porsche’s “914” – ah well.

 

Then Porsche built the 914-6.  Yeah, not at the VW factory, but at the Porsche factory.  Five wheel lugs, ignition key on the quintessential left hand side, and the car was, well, the closet thing you could get to a race car on the street.  Very close to the ground, very low polar moment of inertia with its mid engine that weighed about the same as a Chevy 327.  But unlike the (Ferrari) Dino – the Porsche 914 looked like hell.  Very Cherman utility first looking.  And try to change a fan belt on one with it’s pulley 1 inch from the fire wall or for that matter – timing.  Yeah timing was done for that motor at 6,000 rpm with your head in the engine compartment while lying on the trunk.  Long hair verboten.

 

Another down side with VW building the 914-4 was the Euro badging for Euro cars – “Volkswagen(VW)Porsche”.  The name got shortened to just Vo Po – um, just a bit too close the smiling East German Volkspolizei or Vopo.

 

No doubt about it though – the Dino 246 is one fine looking well balanced in sight and sound car and since there is a finite number available . . . they are priced out of sight.

 

Onward

Doug

 

 

From: Ferrari <ferrari-bounces+dnt=dock.net [at] ferrarilist.com> On Behalf Of Peter Rychel
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2020 9:38 PM
To: DOUG <dnt [at] dock.net>
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Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ok I am not being crass, but....

 

Ferrari adhered to my favorite decree:

 

“When in doubt, build it stout, with materials you know about”

 

The wall thickness of that oval chassis tubing is quite thick and there’s a substantial amount used to build that platform, not including the rest of the support structure for the body work and suspension. Also, the 246’s body was mostly steel nearly doubling the weight over the 206’s alloy panels.

 

It all adds up and I’m not surprised it’s pushing close to that amount. I keep meaning to bring my GT4 down to the local truck weigh station and getting a certified weight for the car. I would bet it’d tip over 3K lbs.

 

Peter

 

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From: Lashdeep Singh via Ferrari
Sent: September 3, 2020 11:02 AM
To: PeterGT4
Cc: ferrari list
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ok I am not being crass, but....

 

Doug, you mention the fascination with the Dino 246?

While it is nice to look at, it is also chunky at 2800 lbs?

Always wondered why a car that small was so heavy.

The Lancia Stratos on the other hand...

> On Sep 3, 2020, at 03:33, Douglas Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net> wrote:
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