Re: Hmm
From: Erik Nielsen (judge4regmail.com)
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2021 03:42:09 -0800 (PST)
The business class/expense account lifestyle catches up with you after a while.  I’m pretty close to the weight I was back in grad school now.  Could still lose the freshman 15.

On Mar 7, 2021, at 12:02 AM, Lashdeep Singh <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:


You lost 30 lbs? What happened? You looked fine last time I saw you.

Regarding your time...everyone has to start somewhere.

At least you made a positive change!


On Mar 6, 2021, at 13:13, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:

No booze seemed to work.

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Waiting to hear Matt laugh at my time.  

On Mar 6, 2021, at 9:49 AM, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:

I cut out all alcohol consumption, started running a bit more on top of my hockey routine and the next thing you know I’m down thirty pounds.

Going to go log my time for a virtual 5k in about an hour once it warms up just a bit more.

On Mar 6, 2021, at 2:26 AM, Lashdeep Singh <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:

What about the scotch in your flask?

Always need a Disaster Recovery Plan in place...

On Mar 5, 2021, at 23:56, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:


The Lafite was a crappy year...

On Mar 5, 2021, at 9:25 PM, Lashdeep Singh <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:


How was the helicopter ride and wine list???

On Mar 5, 2021, at 21:19, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:


What was worse is they sold out on the program. There are a few whales left out there who have a default setting of shut up and take my money. 

They’re usually vulgar and have such banal conversational skills that just make me appreciate my dog that much more. 

On Mar 5, 2021, at 4:03 PM, Brian Keegan <bks281 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:

 Damn Erik!

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 5, 2021, at 4:24 PM, Lashdeep Singh via Ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> wrote:


Rick, great story!

What year was that and which Shelby car were you working on?

Did you guys ever “Club Hop” in Monterey?

We go from the Ferrari
to Detomaso, then Bugatti and Lambo clubs, one by one...”crashing” their gatherings.

Lots of “interesting” people everywhere for that week.





On Mar 5, 2021, at 11:27, Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net> wrote:



Clyde, it depends on the marque... 
Here, this is an odd group amongst the Ferrari world.  Work on our own cars, like the old stuff, own a lot of the mid years, dig the Dinos and see past the lipstick on the new cars for the nightmares they can be.

In the Pantera world, most are like this list.   Those who aren't don't stick around long.    They think they are getting into the exotic world cheap and then learn they are the red headed stepchildren at "the gatherings" and have to work on their cars "cuz no one else will".

When we were actively racing the historics, I always stayed with the Pantera crowd at Los Laureles Lodge when we did Montery weekend.   Quaint place, converted horse stables.  The Bentley Racer crowd used their accommodations up on the hill above.    People always working on their cars, drinking beer and hard stuff, noshing on handfuls of bagged chips.   A few of us "both" owners that had Ferraris stayed there.  One was a SoCal dentist that always brought two gorgeous yellow 246 Dinos he showed at CI, Laurie Ferrari, and Al Chelini with his Red 355 (did you know Al, AA pilot, medically grounded, SIM instructor).

Finny and I would hang the first night with the Pantera crowd then go over to the Barnyard the second night with the Ferrari crowd...  While one crowd sat around in jeans, ate hamburgers, swilled booze, and worked on their cars... the other had wine with finger foods, stood to keep from wrinkling their slacks or dresses and tried to out-checkbook everyone with stories of how much they paid to have their car serviced.  Like it was some badge of honor to have the highest priced engine out belt change.

About year 4 of having both, Al Chelini came to me at the "no-host-free-bar-clubhouse" and needed help with the programmer for the cut out/bypass on his fancy new Italian exhaust.  It was a joke control box with instructions in Englitalian (FYI, worse than Chenglish).  But we got it done.   That night Finny wanted to stay with the Pantera wives and I went with Al to the Barnyard...  the exhaust worked wonderfully, oh what a sound.   A dweeb with no socks/loafers, seafoam green sweater around his shoulders and glass of "whine" I couldn't pronounce asked Al about his exhaust...   he had the same exhaust put on his (then) new 360 but it wasn't working right.  Al suggested he have me (holding a beer) look at it....  OH NO!!, he needed a professional he could PAY to adjust HIS car.  I raised and eyebrow and snickered.  He impudently walked away.

Next day at the track, I'm working on the 66 Shelby T/A car  (I remember the drapes were down so it was probably something on the car that was not for prying eyes to see) and Chris MacAllister comes to our pit and I hear him ask "Where's Blondie??".   Carl says "he's in the tent, but you can go in".   I'm under the car and he kicks my feet and says "Blondie, I have someone here you need to meet".  Be right out.   "Tom has an exhaust programmer problem and he needs someone like you who REALLY knows this electronic shit to fix it for him."   I slide out from under the car and look up... it's the sweater dweeb from the previous night still in with the same sweater around his neck.   "Sorry Chris, he needs a PROOFESSSSIONNNNAAALLL".   The guy turns beet red and storms out of the tent.   Chris asks "Do you know who that is?"...  Nope!      Still don't to this day.  


On Friday, March 5, 2021, 5:46:43 AM PST, Clarence Romero Jr. <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com> wrote:


Great story
But those individuals are far and few between.

Clyde Romero

If you have no enemies
You have no character ! 

Scars are tattoos with better stories!
When you're out of F-4's you're out of fighters!







On Mar 5, 2021, at 8:37 AM, George <ygpz4re [at] hotmail.com> wrote:


In response to Scottie's remarks below, I'll offer the following short stories.

Back in 1996 or '97, I was sitting in a Chick-Fil-A in Fredericksburg VA, was wearing my FoW race team jacket.  A woman approached me and excitedly asked if I owned a Ferrari.  I told her no, I just worked on the race team.  She said her brother had one and it was such a cool car.  I asked what model he had, and she said "Well, he had a Mondial, but just got a new one.  I don't know that that one's called...."  So I asked his name and if he lived here and she said yes, he lives right in town.

That brother was our own Matt Boyd, and we've been friends ever since.   I actually didn't get to meet him until a few months later when he showed up in his 308 at an FoW event.  When he introduced himself, I said "Hey, I met your sister!"  "Oh, that was you??"  "Yep!"  When I bought the ex-Joe Martz/ex-Steve Cook 308, Matt and I drove our cars over to his sister's house where there was a kids birthday party going on, and we took the kids for rides.  I think that topped their pin-the-tail-on-the-donkey game....  hahahaha!!

WRT Scottie's comments about the "top collectors" - the guy who owned FoW (and the race team) when I was involved, may not have been in the same echelon as those who Scottie mentioned, but still, he had an F40 and a 250SWB (both of which were well driven - Clyde), so he was not hurting.  But with a regular wardrobe of jeans, polo shirt, and docksiders, the average person on the street would never have guessed.  Very down to earth and nice guy.

Later, Clyde wrote: "If you have to worry about maintenance, fuel mileage, insurance you've bought the wrong car!"   When I first bought my Spitfire (RIP), I decided to mod it a bit for better performance (even by cheap car standards, it was quite anemic).  As was thinking about swapping out the horrible Stromberg carb for a Weber, and the cast iron exhaust manifold for a header, I commented to a friend that I was a bit concerned about what the mpg might be.  He replied - "If you're only worried about gas milage, buy a Yugo you yellow-bellied communist!!"  Hahahahha!!

gp



From: scott saidel <Scott_Saidel [at] Hotmail.com>
To: Lashdeep Singh <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Hmm

For me -

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BUT, having spent years in and among - it is the people.  Like this group.  The common passion brought together this amazing group, I never see or hear attitude (and I know many have reason to be more than proud of their accomplishments) and everyone is always eager to step up.  This ?brain trust? is often my first resource - especially when I have obscure questions.

When I was helping organize large events, the Ferrari guys were almost always the easiest to manage.  Came when asked, followed the rules, kept things safe sane and organized.  Lambo guys ? well, at least the open shirt, gold chain, rippling muscles crowd in South Florida ? not so much.  Of course, exceptions to every rule, but in general.

Finally, even the top of the top collectors are down to earth and approachable, at least about their cars.  I once met Mr. Marriott at Cavallino, when I was drooling over one of his cars.  He spent half an hour discussing its recent restoration.  At the time, I had a girlfriend that was an all-star in the Marriott organization.  As an award for several years of record setting numbers, she got a half hour audience with him.  All I did was admire a very admirable car.

Stroll, Shirley, Leno, Bachman, Fux ? so many more I can?t think of, have all been generous with their time and knowledge over the years.  I often imagine how hard, if not impossible, it would have been to reach them in their professional capacities.

Just my .02

scottie

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