Ferrari Mailing List: Re: The stop production next year

Re: The stop production next year	<– Date –> <– Thread –>
From: Rick Moseley (ramoselpacbell.net)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2021 11:28:30 -0700 (PDT)

About the time Graham was starting to become a household name (in the racing community), Bobby stopped by our pit at Monterey. From under the car, you could hear the whispers... psst, that's Bobby Rahal. He kicked my feet and I crawled out from under the car, looked up and said "Hey, aren't YOU Graham Rahal's Dad?".... he didn't know whether to cry, scowl or spit nails. I just got my usual, smirky, "you're an ass". He was lobbying for some new girl to get a ride (read drive) in one of the Trans AM cars. She was the newest next best thing since Janet Guthrie... for the life of me, I can't remember her name now.

An hour later, coming out of the bathrooms, Debi grabbed me and said "YOU made him one proud Papa today... but he's miserable that will be all he will be known for soon." I told her to tell him "As long as Boris is around, he'll never be the best known Arab in Racing..." She said "No, because he'll know exactly where that came from"

Bobby did race in F1... for Walter Wolf... 77? 78? I think it was shorter than Michael's stint.

On Wednesday, August 18, 2021, 08:44:07 AM PDT, Clarence Romero Jr. <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com> wrote:

And Rahal stayed in Indy cars for reason he knew his limits

Unlike Micheal Andretti

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On Aug 18, 2021, at 11:31 AM, Lashdeep Singh <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:

Clyde, you should relay your concerns to Bobby Rahal.

I met him at an Indycar race in 2012 and asked him about the NSX program.

He had good memories of it and said that it was a great car to drive if even a bit extreme for the average consumer.

Gordon Murray adored it too and used it to influence the F1.

"Murray used the Honda to benchmark the F1 for a range of qualities, particularly suspension-related, and talks enthusiastically about its 'really skinny forged alloy suspension links' and 'compliance pivot' secondary subframe design ... Uehara recalls this feature being a major pain to develop."

Classic Cars Magazine, Sep 2009, pg 71.

On Aug 18, 2021, at 11:22, Clarence Romero Jr. <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com> wrote:

The Japanese have no panache

When people are going to drop huge dollars on a car they want that

Ferrari branding is all about that, T shirts hats all the stuff

But you can tell that to the Japanese

So they continue to build what they feel will sell to the high end market and continue to fail

The initial word on the NSX made it unobtainable, there we’re waiting list

The ass Jay Leno made it so

Then the real people started buying the electronic rice bowl

They were stacking up like cord wood at dealers, could move them

Sales incentives were like condoms at a Philippine steam bath

I saw a bright red one a my local Ferrari dealer, he traded it in on a 488

Talk about anal discomfort!

Sorry Lash

Your like the Soviet Union talking about landing on the moon

They never did it

All they did was orbit the moon!

RF4-4EVR

Scars are Tattoos with better stories !

If you have no enemies, you have no character !

Clyde Romero

On Aug 18, 2021, at 11:05 AM, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:

Driving dynamics were a bit iffy on the first generation one. Much preferred the Lotus Elise.

You guys have heard my rants, I even told the guys at Honda (while sitting in a conference room at Tochigi) that the back of the car didn’t match the front of the car style wise. But what do you expect from a company where the top talent was working on mini-vans at the time.

The chief engineer for the engine has been to my house for a scotch, he didn’t even try to sell me one.

Good cars, yes. Things you will see out side of their own branded museums in 30 years, nope.

On Aug 18, 2021, at 9:44 AM, Lashdeep Singh via Ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> wrote:

Wish I would have picked up the 1st gen NSX before they shot up in price.

The induction noise on that car was worth the purchase price.

They were also verifiably lightweight. A milestone for sure.

It surely paved the way for the excellent Japanese junior supercars that followed.

RX TT, 300ZX TT, MR2 Turbo, Supra, Stealth R/T, etc.

On Aug 18, 2021, at 00:09, Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:

The Japanese always got it.

They always came out with products to match the trends of the time, which were far better made than all of the rest. You name it, they excelled. That first gen NSX put everyone to shame, including your much derided 348.

I don’t know, with all of the carbon fiber bells-and-whistles at $183K, this last gen NSX is a pretty good deal than a lot of other exotica out there (so that formula is still at work to this day). The problem is, there’s so much choice and the players have all stepped up their game since then. Yes, even Ferrari. My friend has owned his GTC4 Lusso Turbo since 2018 and other than routine maintenance, he hasn’t had a thing done to it. He just drives it and enjoys it (has already done a couple of week-long road trips to California and Alberta with it). It has a lot more mileage on it than you think.

Besides, the money from this sale is going to a charitable organization, so maybe take some heart that it isn’t (all) going into some other rich guy’s pocket. And even then, the buyer owns several Acura dealerships, so some of that money is going to get written off some how...

Peter

P.S. Hanging out at the McDonalds in West Vancouver (I kid you not!):

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From: Clarence Romero Jr.
Sent: August 17, 2021 6:11 AM
To: PeterGT4
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: [Ferrari] The stop production next year

The NSX fails again to capture the sports car market
The Japanese will never get it

The first 2022 Acura NSX Type S supercar was auctioned for $1.1 million to raise money for stem education. The buyer was NASCAR team owner Rick Hendrick who also owns the first 2017 NSX.

https://www.foxnews.com/auto/heres-why-an-american-made-acura-just-sold-for-1-1-million

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RF4-4EVR

Scars are Tattoos with better stories !

If you have no enemies, you have no character !

Clyde Romero

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