Re: Wonderful Car List
From: Rick Moseley (ramoselpacbell.net)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 21:29:40 -0700 (PDT)
As long as they look like a Sidewinder or a Sparrow, let them look like weapons.   But today, far too many look like a MK4N and we’re told by the body positivity folks they are  to be called beautiful…

You need a big truck to haul them around.  



On Sep 6, 2021, at 20:24, Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:



Lash, nothing changed, there are lots of women out there now that look like weapons...

 

Peter

 

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From: Lashdeep Singh via Ferrari
Sent: September 6, 2021 11:10 AM
To: PeterGT4
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Wonderful Car List

 

Cars used to look like the female human form, now they look like weapons.

 

I miss the Miura and Talbot Lago Type 57.

 

I saw a 1981 Chrysler Imperial recently in really nice condition.

 

What a neat looking and mathematical shape.



On Sep 6, 2021, at 13:26, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:



Unfortunately (for society writ large), those that ended up failing thermodynamics ended up as business majors…



On Sep 6, 2021, at 12:24 PM, Douglas Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net> wrote:



Norway registers 84.8% market share of plug-in cars in March.

Norway hydro-power critically low | Reuters

 

I’m sure they’ll fix it . . . .

 

Doug (heh heh)

 

From: Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, September 6, 2021 9:48 AM
To: Douglas Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net>
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Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Wonderful Car List

 

Hence the desire for going all in on electrics, then the design team can get creative again until range becomes mandated.

 

Pay no attention to the fact the grid can’t support it, that’s someone else’s problem...




On Sep 6, 2021, at 11:20 AM, Douglas Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net> wrote:

 

Ah ah ah – good one guys.

 

Frankly it’s also driven by fuel used per distance . . . mpg or L/100km.  Mostly to do with NHTSA CAFÉ standards.

 

Vehicles have to move air out of the way.  For the most part all air is about the same density at sea level and cars need to be streamlined to punch a productive hole in that mass.  

 

Ergo most cars look the same today . . . sorta.  Ever see gray body NASCA racers without their logo wrap?  Mono colored jelly beans.

 

Good book – “All Corvettes are Red” explains CAFÉ when the design engineers get together at their weekly conference to explain their component parts design.  Report card:  OK Mikey, how’s that fuel pump?  Good boss – we have it down to 3 pounds 7 ounces.  WHAT?  Knock off 10 ounces . . . that represents .00003 mpg and a lower 0 to 60 mph of .0006 seconds.  NEXT

 

I asked my acquaintance Freeman Thomas (father of the Audi TT and new Bug) how much fun it must be to be in automotive design.  Nee nee he responds – show the wrong person the wrong concept and you’re issued a cardboard box for your private things at the snap of your boss’s finger.  (Please do return the box).

 

*sigh*

Doug

 

 

 

 

 

From: Ferrari <ferrari-bounces+dnt=dock.net [at] ferrarilist.com> On Behalf Of Rick Moseley
Sent: Monday, September 6, 2021 7:12 AM
To: DOUG <dnt [at] dock.net>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Wonderful Car List

 

Agreed Peter.   "Form following Function" seems to have given way to "because we can".

 

One of my pass-times when traveling public roads is to look for the outlandish cut-outs, creases and voids in modern bodywork that are then filled with segments of head and tail light bodies.  Makes you wonder if a major proponent of the legal drug movement were car designers.

 

I got a laugh at the marketing wanks "Eye Catching Design" on the new Honda Clarity...   certainly a design by committee with 5 groups getting a piece of the car and none of them allowed to see what the others were doing.

 

On Sunday, September 5, 2021, 10:38:31 PM PDT, Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com> wrote: 

 

 

My impression of car design nowadays is that they’ve run out of ideas and are just doing outlandish for outlandish’s sakes. You could get away with that back in the ‘80s as it was that last coke-fueled hoorah left over from the 1970s spaceship school of design. 

 

It’s why I really appreciate the look of the new Roma. It’s a really nice clean shape that introduces new features to the traditional elements that (maybe) Ferrari had been hanging onto for too long. Without all of the extra stuff that seems to have become de rigueur (slats, slashes, scoops, creases, etc). This car has really grown on me in just a short time since it’s introduction. 

 

My Mondial gets compliments every time I park it somewhere. People are shocked when I tell them it’s 32 years old...

 

Peter 

 

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From: Douglas Anderson
Sent: September 5, 2021 9:34 PM
To: PeterGT4
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: [Ferrari] Wonderful Car List

 

Lash posted “All wonderful designers and shapes.” List

 

 

Good list Lash . . .

 

Sports car design in general – lets take Porsche and Ferrari as sports cars on the same continuum.

 

Porsche does it’s “Form Follows Function” schtick and says “like it or leave it.”

 

Ferrari designs the sexist most bodacious beauty’s and then asks – where do we put the gas tank(s)?  Passengers?  Luggage . . . .

 

Gotta love our 308GTS, exceptin’ for changing sparkplugs, carrying Hershey bars in my luggage, doing a suspension over haul . . . .

 

Cheers

Doug

 

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