Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Wonderful Car List

[Peter Rychel (dino308gt4]

But in a way, was/is that influenced by the insurance companies who figure that sports cars are for “reckless-macho-men” and 2+2s fall under the “emasculated-wimpy-family-man-who-doesn’t-take-risks-therefore-we-don’t-have-to-pay-out-high-dollar-claims-because-he-won’t-crash-it(-as-much)” category?

 

Peter

 

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From: Rick Moseley
Sent: September 8, 2021 9:48 PM
To: Peter Rychel
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Wonderful Car List

 

Exactly.   I think the last time I was in Monterey was maybe 2014.  I said the exact thing to a Ferrari exec at lunch in the tent.  He said they never intended for the seats to be used… but in the US market they got a huge tax break by being able to categorize it as a 2+2.  By putting child car seat anchors in the back seats they got nearly $500 per car in incentive money and the cost per car was only about $5.  I joked that if one were to actually break one of those brackets, Ferrari cost to the owner would probably be close to $200…. To which he smugly replied “possibly more”. 

 

I guess those seats fall under those idiot regulations like the one that made Toyota turn the 4-Runner into a 4 door.   

On Sep 8, 2021, at 9:28 PM, Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:



And stay there for a long time.

 

Do keep in mind, just because it has back seats, doesn’t mean they can actually be used.

 

I was disappointed when Ferrari dropped the “seat-delete” option with the California 30 model. You could never use the seats anyways, might as well make it more useful as a parcel shelf.

 

Peter

 

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From: LSJ via Ferrari
Sent: September 8, 2021 9:22 PM
To: PeterGT4
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Wonderful Car List

 

It does have a back seat so the values will surely go down for a while...

 

 

 

LSJ

 

 

 

On Thursday, September 9, 2021, 12:15:41 AM EDT, Hans E. Hansen <flist [at] hanshansen.org> wrote:

 

 

With you.

 

I think the Roma is the best of the later generation.

 

I'll give it a couple years and start looking at used prices. Hopefully they will drop to the "left arm and right testicle" level. If everyone else is of the consensus of this group, then the price might be affordable. 

 

Hans. 

 

On Wed, Sep 8, 2021, 8:47 PM Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:

Well, I suppose I am the odd one out amongst all of you guys, because I think the grill is one of the best aspects of this car and I like the modern interpretation of it.

 

The traditional aluminum plate grill just wouldn’t fit the look of the rest of the car. It’s a good step forward into the 21^st century.

 

The eggcrate grill didn’t grace all Ferraris. Even going back to the beginning with Vignale doing all of the coachwork, only a handful of those used an eggcrate grille, most sporting outlandish chrome designs. Most of the racecars didn’t use them, just wire mesh or nothing at all.

 

Peter

 

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From: Anthony Bauco
Sent: September 8, 2021 6:05 AM
To: Peter Rychel
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Wonderful Car List

 

I have to admit that I am not a big fan of the Roma.  And my family is Roman.  The grille just seems odd to me.

 

On Mon, Sep 6, 2021, 1:38 AM Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:

My impression of car design nowadays is that they’ve run out of ideas and are just doing outlandish for outlandish’s sakes. You could get away with that back in the ‘80s as it was that last coke-fueled hoorah left over from the 1970s spaceship school of design.

 

It’s why I really appreciate the look of the new Roma. It’s a really nice clean shape that introduces new features to the traditional elements that (maybe) Ferrari had been hanging onto for too long. Without all of the extra stuff that seems to have become de rigueur (slats, slashes, scoops, creases, etc). This car has really grown on me in just a short time since it’s introduction.

 

My Mondial gets compliments every time I park it somewhere. People are shocked when I tell them it’s 32 years old...

 

Peter

 

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From: Douglas Anderson
Sent: September 5, 2021 9:34 PM
To: PeterGT4
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: [Ferrari] Wonderful Car List

 

Lash posted “All wonderful designers and shapes.” List

 

 

Good list Lash . . .

 

Sports car design in general – lets take Porsche and Ferrari as sports cars on the same continuum.

 

Porsche does it’s “Form Follows Function” schtick and says “like it or leave it.”

 

Ferrari designs the sexist most bodacious beauty’s and then asks – where do we put the gas tank(s)?  Passengers?  Luggage . . . .

 

Gotta love our 308GTS, exceptin’ for changing sparkplugs, carrying Hershey bars in my luggage, doing a suspension over haul . . . .

 

Cheers

Doug

 

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