Ferrari Mailing List: Re: [NFC] Balloon ride to space...

[Peter Rychel (dino308gt4]

I’ll have to check that out the next time I’m there.

 

Peter

 

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From: Rick Moseley
Sent: October 5, 2021 9:50 PM
To: Peter Rychel
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] [NFC] Balloon ride to space...

 

Yes, but you really don't have to go all that high.

From the Keck observatory in Hawaii (13,500 ft) it is quite noticeable, especially since you are surrounded by ocean.

 

But the higher you go the more it stands out and the more the color of the sky changes.

 

 

 

On Tuesday, October 5, 2021, 09:05:42 PM PDT, Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:

 

 

We’re around the same age and I do remember those days when curious kids could get a – brief - chance to peek into the cockpit. I’d always sweet-talk the pretty flight attendants with a cartoon drawing – it always worked!

 

Wouldn’t a flight on a Concorde give you the curvature of the earth?

 

Peter

 

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From: Erik Nielsen
Sent: October 5, 2021 11:04 AM
To: PeterGT4
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] [NFC] Balloon ride to space...

 

Circa 1985,  School trip to Italy.  

 

Flying back from FRA to ATL on Lufthansa (and way before 9/11 security measures), I was allowed 10 minutes in the cockpit and got to see us making landfall over Greenland including some of the icebergs.  We weren't at Angels 50, but that far north, you could see the curve, and when you looked up, you could see the deeper blue that you only get at altitude and above any weather.  Memorable trip.

 

Almost 40 years and in excess of 1.6 million miles flown later, I'm also okay if I never get on another airplane again, but I'll be at the airport on Monday morning before 0500.  Again.

 

 

On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 12:29 PM Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net> wrote:

Mother Nature is a bitch.

Gravity sucks.

These are merciless realities.

Venturing to those altitudes should not be taken lightly or as some romantic journey of man.  It's serious.

 

I'd choose my Tomcat.  I was trained for it, my destiny was in my hands.†

I've been north of Angels 50

A) the earth is not flat

B) even at that altitude, exposed skin burns really quickly*  (more of that Mother Nature stuff)

 

 

*Clyde, did you have issues with "B" above?

 

† Anthony, I was put in that "gun to the head" scenario during psyche evals...  I spared the dog.  Ænima

But I do love your "Bezos' flying penis"...  that's perfect.

My call sign was "Cosmo"

 

On Tuesday, October 5, 2021, 09:48:44 AM PDT, Anthony Bauco <tbauco [at] gmail.com> wrote:

 

 

Good lord man, you are a ray of sunshine today!!!

 

This reminded of a Star Trek scene. 

https://youtu.be/RlphfLO3MYA

I will call you Bones from now on.

 

Is there someone on this list named Maverick?

 

Given we know your answer is "none of the above", which would you choose if someone held  gun to your head?  1. Falcon 9 plus Dragon, 2. Bezos' flying penis, 3. Branson's Six Million Dollar Man ripoff or 4. the county fair balloon ride on steroids?

 

On Tue, Oct 5, 2021, 11:09 AM Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net> wrote:

You forgot Alan Eustace...  who holds the record.

 

It's not a matter of how fast you get there, we're all speed junkies or we wouldn't be on this list.  It's the abject harshness of space once you get there and lack of backup contingencies.   It's a 15 minute fall back to earth, most of it above Mach 1...  all in an environmental suit that if it fails...  well, if hypoxia doesn't kill you, the low temperature will.  And the real irony is that even at those freezing temps (-90° F), at that low of a pressure condition, your blood, your eyeballs, your urine, even your bile will boil from the residual heat in your body.   There is no coming back from that.  Whatever hits the ground is just goo... before it hits.

 

Yep, safe peaceful parachute ride back to earth... at over 700MPH without an aircraft structure around you.

(for those scoffing at that number because terminal velocity is ~124mph, that only "starts" to apply below 30Kfeet)

 

We won't even discuss control-ability in an environment where all you have is your limbs and no real air for them to work against.

(One of the gents mentioned here got into a flat spin of amazing RPMs, he's not even sure how he got out of it.)

 

There are risks... and calculated risks.  Choose wisely.

 

 

 

On Monday, October 4, 2021, 09:21:17 PM PDT, Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:

 

 

So, as much as there was some hesitation from ‘List members to take a roller-coaster-rocket-ride to space, how about a graceful float to space?:

 

www.space.com - world view space tourism stratosphere balloon

 

For concours-winning Ferrari Mondial money, one can take a peaceful, hours-long ride to the edge of space.

 

Thing with this is, if things do go awry, you could just pull a Joe Kittinger/Felix Baumgartner and parachute safely back to earth. Win-win...

 

www.youtube.com - Felix Jumps From The Stratosphere | Earth Lab

 

Peter

 

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