Ferrari Mailing List: Re: GT4 just sold!

[LSJ (lashdeep]

Hans, that is an interesting article. 2844 lbs seems optimistic given the Hemi, steel body and wire wheels...

It is a striking car in person though so no denying that part.

LSJ

On Monday, November 1, 2021, 01:30:18 PM EDT, Hans E. Hansen <flist [at] hanshansen.org> wrote:

Here's a fun read about it:

https://www.classicandsportscar.com/news/csc-features/the-monteverdi-hai-%E2%80%93-behind-the-wheel-of-the-most-elusive-classic-of-all

Hans.

On 10/31/21, Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net> wrote:
>  Monteverdi "Purple Smoke"... which was really more of a wine color.
> The one with the Boxer paint was the Hai, not to be confused with the High
> (Speed) 375 model.  I think Hai means "Shark" in Swiss.  I had read they
> had a De Dion rear end, but the one I saw Germany had a ZF.
>
> Lash and I both have a thing for Hemis and the Hai was 426 Hemi powered.  I
> think there were only 3 made???  I just can't image what the front/rear
> weight ratio was.
>
>    On Sunday, October 31, 2021, 09:13:03 PM PDT, Peter Rychel
> <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Ha, I don’t think Ferrari would ever claim they got inspired by DeTomaso!
>
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>
> I forgot about the Monteverdi. I believe the first one they built was purple
> and all one color. I only remember another they built and it was either grey
> or silver and yes, had the lower part painted black (with their name in
> bold, body-colored graphics along with it).
>
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> A friend of mine had mentioned this theory that painting the lower part
> black, or matt black would make lower fender and rocker panel repairs not as
> noticeable, if the repairs were less than perfect (because EVERY ‘70s car
> rusted, even while you looked at it).
>
>
>
> In Ferrari’s case, those first Boxers employed the use of integrating the
> bumpers into the bodywork. Maybe in some ways, the fiberglass did not give
> an appropriate finish, or, maybe the paint they used did not stick on the
> fiberglass, or match well with the painted metal surfaces. Probably just
> easier to mold and paint them all in one batch, just like the Model T!
>
>
>
> No matter, this color scheme does make the car look sleeker. I like how my
> GT4 is almost stealthy because of it. Only a handful of people ever notice
> it...
>
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>
> Peter
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> Sent from Mail for Windows
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> From: Lashdeep Singh
> Sent: October 31, 2021 11:39 AM
> To: Peter Rychel
> Cc: The FerrariList
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] GT4 just sold!
>
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>
> Peter, your answer is the generally accepted nomenclature however the
> origins of the idea lie elsewhere.
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> Detomaso used this paint scheme on their factory Group 4 FIA competition
> cars in 1971 many years before the BBs were introduced.
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> Before that?
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> There was the Bordinat Detomaso Mangusta that predated the Group 4
> racers…maybe a trial run?
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> Also, there was a Monteverdi Hai in this paint scheme but it is was all one
> colour when built and later adopted the black lower trim after 1971.
>
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> So, I always answer with “Boxer trim” at FCA events but think “Detomaso
> trim”.
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> On Oct 31, 2021, at 01:48, Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Doug seems to be AWOL, so I’ll step in for him.
>
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> It’s the Boxer paint trim. It was to give it a familial look to the
> showroom, as all of the two-seater line-up could have that option (which was
> standard on the 365/512 Boxers, as you well know why).
>
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>
> Peter
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> Sent from Mail for Windows
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> From: Lashdeep Singh via Ferrari
> Sent: October 30, 2021 11:12 AM
> To: PeterGT4
> Cc: The FerrariList
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] GT4 just sold!
>
>
>
> Awesome! They always looked good with the lower black whatever it’s called
> trim.
>
> Cue Doug here…
>
>> On Oct 29, 2021, at 13:42, Hans E. Hansen <FList [at] hanshansen.org> wrote:
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>> 
>> Lash:
>>
>> The day the car left......
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