Ferrari Mailing List: Re: BMW M1 - Re: F355 GTS Sale- Strong!

[Douglas Anderson (dnt]

BMW Z1 . . the sail boat car . . . happiest days = the day bought; the day sold.

Alas

Doug

 

From: Ferrari <ferrari-bounces+dnt=dock.net [at] ferrarilist.com> On Behalf Of Rick Moseley
Sent: Sunday, November 7, 2021 10:27 PM
To: DOUG <dnt [at] dock.net>
Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] BMW M1 - Re: F355 GTS Sale- Strong!

 

I have a friend who had a Bimmer Z1... those doors!?!?!  NO.

The glove box was behind the seats...?  why?

Body panel colors didn't match...  although all were dark blue, not all the same dark blue.  Even the gas cap didn't match (but there was only one...) The steering wheel had it's own hue of dark blue. He inquired at BMW if the "changeable" body panels had been changed with 2 different blues??  Nope, just one dark blue was offered.  No carfax on any damage.  No record of any dark blue body panels sold in California.   Surprisingly, he said BMW records showed only two people had bought a second set of body panels in another color.

 

Just like the Countach, the door sills are wiiiiiiide.  And, the seats are much lower than the sill.

Women do NOT like the fanny, foot, foot entry in a (short) skirt and heels.   After about 4 months, his wife refused to ride in it and he sold it.  Having the driver side door drive belt snap helped him make up his mind to off it before it broke again.  Think of a 308 cam belt having to lift and lower a 160lb door several times a day.

The guy Pat sold it to, sold it again inside 2 months.   He couldn't get his golf clubs in the trunk.

Pat saw it on a Porsche lot many years later.  He still had some paperwork on it, so he ran the carfax.  Since it was sold in 1990 until he saw it in 2000, it had 13 owners.  He was #2.  No wrecks.  Under 80K miles.  

 

It was a car everyone wanted...  no one wanted to keep.

 

Pat said BMW offered or were going to offer the Z1 in a coupe...  but he said it looked like a AMC Gremlin.  I never saw one.

 

What was the car that had doors that slid forward into the front fenders?  Allard?  Kaiser?

 

 

On Sunday, November 7, 2021, 09:19:05 PM PST, Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com> wrote:

 

 

You never liked those (bottle cap wheels)?

 

What’s your take on the Z1? That’s another of my favorites and quite attainable. The only one I ever saw was in Montreal of all places back in the early ‘90s. It was owned by a German diplomat who lived and worked in Ottawa, Ontario. He had the red Canadian consulate licence plate on the back that was merely strapped on top of the car’s original German tags. I always thought they were fun cars, what with the sliding doors.

 

Peter

 

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From: Lashdeep Singh via Ferrari
Sent: November 7, 2021 8:52 PM
To: PeterGT4
Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] BMW M1 - Re: F355 GTS Sale- Strong!

 

Yes indeed CG!

 

A classic Italian shape…

 

I really like the OEM wheels too.

 

The BBS mesh style was great on cars that really needed it like most of the older German designs.

 

Remember the horrible BMW Bottle cap wheel on the otherwise charming E30?

 

 

 

On Nov 7, 2021, at 23:30, Charles Perry <charles [at] carolinasound.com> wrote:



One of my all time favorites as well, although never driven or ridden in one. But it’s one of those iconic bodies where you know what it is from ½ mile away.

 

It’s also the only BMW with the chops to backup having a roundel on BOTH sides of the rear.  😊

 

I never shopped for one before they got hot, but it’s been common to see them in the $450-$600k range for the last couple of years.

 

 

 

From: Ferrari <ferrari-bounces+charles=carolinasound.com [at] ferrarilist.com> On Behalf Of Lashdeep Singh via Ferrari
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2021 10:36 PM
To: Charles Perry <charles [at] carolinasound.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: [Ferrari] BMW M1 - Re: F355 GTS Sale- Strong!

 

BTW- the BMW M1 is one of my favorite Italian cars ever.

 

They were at $50k back in the day when I was first looking at them.

 

I have never driven one but friends who have said they were not very exciting.

 

I think the BMW engine is really well done but not enough drama to match the chassis and bodywork…especially at today’s values.

 

Another case of “never meet your heroes”…

 

 

On Nov 3, 2021, at 22:29, Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net> wrote:



Yes, a 1980...  I think... too many cars ago.

Yep, had two fuel fillers

But I thought the wide body or "G" were done by Peter Stevens before he went on to do the McLaren F1.

I'm going to have to look that up... but not tonight.

 

And who thought the F1 was a Gordon Murray design???

 

Too bad, I was hoping you were looking at an M1...  maybe next year?  ;-)

 

 

On Wednesday, November 3, 2021, 06:54:22 PM PDT, LSJ <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:

 

 

G Body Turbo Esprit actually...

 

Rick, you had one right?

 

LSJ

 

 

 

On Tuesday, November 2, 2021, 03:20:16 PM EDT, Rick Moseley <ramosel [at] pacbell.net> wrote:

 

 

That was my guess... given the 2 fuel fillers clue.

 

On Tuesday, November 2, 2021, 10:28:06 AM PDT, Buxton Motorsports <buxtonmotorsports [at] gmail.com> wrote:

 

 

Or BMW M1

 

On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 7:29 AM Douglas Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net> wrote:

Lash states “I am looking at a car next week that gas fillers on BOTH sides.”

 

Jaguar?  Or a vintage GT 40?

 

Doug

 

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