Re: Exclusive First Drive: 2023 Corvette Z06 | Jay Leno's Garage
From: Peter Rychel (dino308gt4hotmail.com)
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2021 20:55:11 -0800 (PST)

Rob, they are dwindling in choice, but there’s a few modern cars you can still get with a stick.

 

I’ll save the mid-engine two-seaters for the Italians. If I was going to get any GM product, it’d be the Cadillac CT5 Blackwing. Hell, I’d even go for the V-6 CT4 Blackwing!

 

Peter

 

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From: Robert W. Garven Jr.
Sent: November 9, 2021 8:18 PM
To: PeterGT4
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Exclusive First Drive: 2023 Corvette Z06 | Jay Leno's Garage

 

Lash I realize all that. I’m gonna go out on a limb here and piss everyone off. I still think any car without a gear lever is for pussies! Ha

 

If I had unlimited funds I would probably spend the majority of it on older cars Daytonas, boxers, Lusso‘s, muiras, etc.

 

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On Nov 9, 2021, at 5:17 PM, Lashdeep Singh <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:



Rob, they went REAR mid engine and flat plane for sales numbers only.

 

Their FRONT mid engine car with pushrods had been out performing its rivals since the 80s.

 

A downgrade technically but they will gain a larger market share now.

 

A shame…

 

 



On Nov 9, 2021, at 14:08, Robert W. Garven Jr. <rgarven [at] gmail.com> wrote:

I think it’s nice to but you also have to recognize it basically it took them 40 years to copy a Ferrari design mid engine flat crank etc.

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On Nov 9, 2021, at 10:17 AM, Lashdeep Singh via Ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> wrote:



Yes indeed.

 

Truly impressive…

 

I really like the Z06 body enhancements too. It all works well.



On Nov 9, 2021, at 08:39, Anthony Bauco <tbauco [at] gmail.com> wrote:



It really is.  A somewhat close comparison is the F430.  This car has 39% more HP even though it only has 28% more displacement.  It revs at 8600 RPM versus 8500 RPM.  It has a 7 speed dual clutch tranny versus 6 speed.  It has a 0-60 of 2.6s versus 3.6s and an identical top speed.  But the F430 was nearly $190k in 2005 and this will only be around $90k.  In 2021 money, the F430 was over $260k, nearly 3X more.  Even a low mileage used F430 today will cost $130k.

 

To get a car that you can argue is better performing you have to go up to at least the 458.  But that was $225k in 2010 or $280k in today's money.

 

On Mon, Nov 8, 2021, 11:10 PM Lashdeep Singh via Ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> wrote:

Impressive machine…

https://youtu.be/mRU3UDvhF0s
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