Some of the worst flagrant negligence of rules which caused accidents Happened with some of the most experienced crews while I was flying the F-4 2 crews flamed out and had to eject because of poor planning! Yes the airplane was ok they just ran out of fuel Forget about the guys who BROKE the hard deck during ACM and departed flight and failed to eject
RF4-4 ever
If you have no enemies, you have no character !
Clyde Romero
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Good point about the "instructors on board" My very first witnessed mishap (as they are called) was my 5th week of flight school, NAS Pensacola.
It was a T-28 with an IP on board. It was bad enough, they packed the rest of us up and sent us to Beeville, Tx.
Thank you for that Rick You expressed my exact feelings I do have feelings for them But they took the game to lightly in my opinion Most of the worst military accidents I have read about had 2 instructors on board!
Clyde Romero
If you have no enemies You have no character !
Scars are tattoos with better stories! When you're out of F-4's you're out of fighters!
There is nothing "self-righteous" or dishonoring about it. That's YOUR emotional construct.
It's just a harsh reality. As pilot at the tip of the spear it is something you have to get your head around... or you get out. YES, it's that cut and dried for us. YOU don't have the reference point.
In answer to you question about "a good pilot", yes. Capt. Dale "Snort" Snodgrass died this year in a GA aircraft. Snort was a friend and he had been a mentor when I needed one.
He wasn't just good... in my arena, there. was. no. better.
That is how serious Aviation is the the human condition.
So put all this together and I'll guarantee you that Clyde feels for these people. Because he knows that 10, 15, 20 times in his flying career it could have been him and only because of his training, his awareness and confidence, he got himself out. (and in his later career, probably a whole bunch of passengers too) Doesn't change anything. Aviation is still self cleansing. And will continue to be.
Must you get self-righteous every time someone dies in a plane crash? Two people died. Must you dishonor them with your "self cleansing" judgmental quip?
Honest question. Has a good pilot ever crashed or been shot down? Note: I am not implying this guy was a good pilot. Just asking a question. ![]()
RF4-4 ever
If you have no enemies, you have no character !
Clyde Romero
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