Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Talk about stupid

Re: Talk about stupid	<– Date –> <– Thread –>
From: Buxton Motorsports, Inc. Gmail (buxtonmotorsportsgmail.com)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 14:13:36 -0800 (PST)

So is the luggage, but sets bring $$$$ in the secondary market.

Brian E. Buxton

Buxton Motorsports, Inc.

Auto Acquisitions & Consulting

Evansville, IN

Mailing Address:

5411 State Route 261

Unit 903

Newburgh, IN 47629-0923

(812) 760-5513

www.BuxtonMotorsports.com

www.BuxtonMotorsports.net

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On Feb 8, 2022, at 2:02 PM, clyde romero <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com> wrote:

You whats funny Ferrari tool kits
They are worthless to work on the cars, why they even put them in the car is beyond me

From: Peter Rychel <dino308gt4 [at] hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 2:23 PM
To: Clarence Romero Jr. <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: RE: [Ferrari] Talk about stupid

cLyDe, you’ll do a disservice to your estate if you shred the window sticker, or to Britt if he wants to buy the car from you while you’re still alive... It’ll just become another used 296 with missing stuff – a car that is valued less than it’s counterparts.

It’s kind of like my GT4. It only came with a soiled owner’s manual when I bought it. I dropped some serious coin over the years to get all of the books and tools for it. If I ever sell it (God forbid), or my estate, what’s going to get a buyer to open up his wallet? Enthusiast or otherwise? No matter who it is, they’ll shit their pants when they see this. Oh yeah, I have a copy of the bill of sale from the original owner – Bill Badurski – who bought the car new in 1976 from Joe Marchetti’s dealership in Chicago, IL... All this from nothing. Who’s dedicated now?

Peter

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From: Clarence Romero Jr.
Sent: February 7, 2022 2:35 PM
To: PeterGT4
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Talk about stupid

Naw Brian
You know I am right
This joker left the window sticker on the car for a reason.
He thought he had the next AC Cobra
The time capsule caught up with him.

For the record when I get my 296GTB I am going the shred the window sticker
That’s so juvenile
It’s like saving a condom wrapper
And I’ve already been ask by a RWG for my position in delivery
I told him please get in line like everyone else
When I do decide to sell it it will be to someone just like Britt
An enthusiastic individual who can appreciate the car
Not some dealer who wants to capitalize on the car to some unsuspecting buyer with all the hype!

RF4-4EVR

Scars are Tattoos with better stories !

If you have no enemies, you have no character !

Clyde Romero

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On Feb 7, 2022, at 1:13 PM, Buxton Motorsports, Inc. Gmail <buxtonmotorsports [at] gmail.com> wrote:
Well is there only one way to enjoy a car (Clyde’s way?). Your way of enjoying something isn’t the only way, nor is it necessarily the correct way. That’s a personal choice of the person who owns the item.

He didn’t drive it more than a few times, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t enjoy it. It could have been taken to shows, concours events, used to market a business or just enjoyed in the garage. Maybe he enjoyed tripling his money on it. He kept it quite a while to just have bought it as a bauble. Ownership of something is enough for some people. All you can do with art is 1. look at it and 2. Make or lose money owning it. So is owning art stupid? I know people with expensive jewelry who won’t wear it because of the value. But they enjoy owning it. I know a couple of people with original AC Cobras who won’t drive them due to the value, but bought replicas of their cars that they drive all the time. So one is enjoyed without driving it and the other is used in the opposite manner. Are they right, wrong, stupid idiots? No because it’s their money and their choice. And they probably don’t have any interest in what anyone on the internet thinks.

As far as the car biz - I’m not in love with it or attached to it. It’s changed so much in the last 5 - 10 years I actually don’t enjoy it at all. Dealing with most people anymore is terrible. People on social media and the net in general are usually over-opinionated, obnoxious, can’t afford what they want to buy or are just general pains in the ass. Dealing with the govt regulations and expenses has made it barely worth the time or effort. The market the last two years has been fantastic if you’re selling something - but good luck finding something to sell. I haven’t been involved in it as my source of income for a few years. I actually wasn’t going to renew my dealer license this year but it’s my 25th anniversary so I figured I might as well go that distance.

I enjoy running businesses and I have always loved cars and car people. That how my business started. A hobby and passion that became a job. I was good at the job because of my existing knowledge and love for cars. I didn’t sit back and wonder what business I could start to “extrapolate the most money from someone,” although thats fine if that’s your opinion. I actually was accepted into a PhD psych program before I got into the car biz. If money were the driving factor I’d have gone that direction.

I don’t have the time to really explain how every facet of the business works, or why you got more money selling your 512 to a private buyer who knows you -vs- a dealer that has to recondition the car and market a 111,000 mile Ferrari to clients who don’t buy high mileage cars. No matter how nice they are. There are different markets for cars and some people can’t give away a Porsche 911 and others will have people fighting over the same car. If you had listed your 512 on the open market you would have had an idea of what the dealer would have had to deal with in order to sell it.

Is the point of running a business to sell an item for market value and pay your bills? Sure. Do you go to the grocery and argue about the cost of steak and bananas, or do you pay what they sell for because you want to enjoy steak and bananas? What you did selling your 512 was no different than what car dealers or anyone else does. If it wasn’t about money you’d have sold the car to the dealer and walked out with a check. Super easy transaction. But an easy transaction wasn’t the goal. Money was. You wanted what you thought was fair and what the market would bear. You wanted a stack of service records to mean more than 111,000 miles of use and wear and tear. So you held out for more. Are you any better than the people who do the same to make a living?

And PS you already told me what the car sold for. I actually guessed it correctly - based on 30 years of experience selling dreams covered in shit.

Brian E. Buxton

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On Feb 6, 2022, at 6:30 PM, Clarence Romero Jr. <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com> wrote:
He didn’t enjoy the car Buxton
It has no miles on it, ow he realizes what he has
That’s the difference
I drove my 512 TR for 23 plus years and he blast he didn’t
Get over it
He F%cked up thinking it would be a million plus car
So he got outed
You sell cars so your emotional tied to this industry
Not me
I see it for what it is
You want people like me to go into your place and spend huge sums of money
On rolling stock that when I want to sell it back to you
You give me pennies on the dollar
When I took my 512 TR to the local dealer with 111k on it
An they knew how I maintained it and had service records on it and ask for an appraisal
They offered me $40k
And no I m not going to tell what I actually sold it for unless
Brit tells not me
Yea that’s you and your industry
Your sell dreams covered in you know what
I like you but stop thinking your not out to extract the most from the guy
Coming thru the door and telling him the truth about the car market!
That’s why carvanna and the rest of the online car sales people are doing so well
And car dealers are a dying breed.

RF4-4EVR

Scars are Tattoos with better stories !

If you have no enemies, you have no character !

Clyde Romero

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On Feb 6, 2022, at 12:40 PM, Buxton Motorsports, Inc. Gmail <buxtonmotorsports [at] gmail.com> wrote:
But here is the problem. You could say that about anything you have, with the benefit of hindsight. What if your stock pick wasn’t Apple, but Enron? Then there would be zero money left. If you didn’t buy your house, a 512TR, any of the the other cars you owned since 2005, didn’t buy clothes, didn’t go out to eat etc then how much money might you have had IF you invested in the stock you would have invested in, but in 2022 didn’t invest in? And what guarantee is there that he or you or whoever would have held it until 2022?

Where is the line between investing every dime you have an living like a pauper your entire life, and buying cars you got to enjoy, a house that housed your family and built memories, dinners with friends and family etc? At what point do you stop looking at numbers on a screen and take out profits to enjoy your life?

These comparisons are useless. Did you buy Apple in 2005 and hold it until today? If not how are you smarter than they guy who owned and enjoyed a Ford GT for 17 years and made money on top of it?
Brian E. Buxton
Buxton Motorsports, Inc.
Auto Acquisitions & Consulting
Evansville, IN

Mailing Address:
5411 State Route 261
Unit 903
Newburgh, IN 47629-0923

(812) 760-5513

www.BuxtonMotorsports.com
www.BuxtonMotorsports.net

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On Feb 6, 2022, at 9:52 AM, Clarence Romero Jr. <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com> wrote:

Ok so this idiot paid $166k after taxes etc my guess $175k in 2005
That’s what 17 years ago!
Add insurance and storage fees
And the car is only bringing right now under $500k
If this guy would have put that same amount in the market it would be well over $1 million
Can’t fix stupid….

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2005-ford-gt-52/
RF4-4EVR

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If you have no enemies, you have no character !

Clyde Romero

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If you have no enemies, you have no character !

Clyde Romero

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