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Re: London and Rome
From: Anthony Bauco (tbaucogmail.com)
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2022 12:32:11 -0800 (PST)
Careful, he might talk about you on the "other list".  

While there are great restaurants in every city, the true gems are the little rustic places you can find in places like Italy and France.  There is nothing like eating Italian food in Italy made by someone that learned to cook from their Nonna.  There are great places to eat EVERYWHERE in Italy.  

In England, the good restaurants don't serve English food.  Any good British chef has learned how to make Italian, French, Iberian or Asian food.  If you have to be in England, that is better than nothing.  But you do have to work harder to find a good place and it won't serve local cuisine.  

In Florence, you can blindfold yourself, get dropped off in any part of the city and randomly walk until you hit a restaurant and it will be great.  And you are more likely to find rustic classics that you may not find in an Italian restaurant in London.  Roman style artichokes, for example.  Or Roman style Tripe.  Rabbit?  I will say, however, that, over time, old school dishes are becoming mainstream.  I was eating stuff in a high chair that non-Italians would have run away from, screaming, at that time.  Calamari?  Now it is everywhere.  My parents ate stuff that even I still won't eat to this day.  Brains and eyeballs?  Nope. If I want another tongue in my mouth, I will cook dinner, wash the dishes and fix something in the house.

On Wed, Mar 2, 2022, 2:53 PM Buxton Motorsports <buxtonmotorsports [at] gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 11:37 AM Clarence Romero Jr. <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com> wrote:
Believe what you Boss


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On Mar 2, 2022, at 11:08 AM, francis newman <francis.newman [at] webshot.co.uk> wrote:

Clyde - that is not the measure of the type of restaurant most of us are going to go to.

But for your info in UK there are 8 x 3 star, 22 x 2 star and 164 one star.
France has 29 x 3 star, 73 x 2 star and 516 1 star
Italy has 11 x 3 star, 38 x 2 star, 326 x 1 star

But that proves nothing.

Try reading these articles

https://www.finedininglovers.com/article/london-voted-best-food-city-world
https://www.thestaffcanteen.com/Editorials-and-Advertorials/london-is-it-the-culinary-capital-of-the-world#/

F

On 2 Mar 2022, at 16:51, Clarence Romero Jr. <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com> wrote:

How many Michelin 1-3 star restaurants are in the UK vs France and Italy?
The defense rests

Clyde Romero

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You have no character !

Scars are tattoos with better stories!
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On Mar 2, 2022, at 10:30 AM, Lashdeep Singh <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:


Mark, London is terrific for food as is most of England now.

A lot has changed for the better.

When you get to your hotel, ask the concierge for advice and match up with Yelp reviews.

You can also reasonably predict food quality by assessing the bar selections especially the whiskey and wine list.

Modern restaurant bar programs and menu selections are inextricably coordinated.




On Mar 2, 2022, at 09:28, Clarence Romero Jr. <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com> wrote:

Sorry Boss
But you’re a Brit and your somewhat jaded on this topic.
No one jumps on a plane to eat in the UK
France, Italy, even Spain but the UK no way Jose’
The UK is known for business not for culinary delights
Most if not all the great places to eat in the UK aren’t traditional British
Thai and Indian food is great in your country
Like I have told every passenger, you what British food, go to a hospital!
Same goes with Norway Denmark Sweden
Nice places
Horrible food
It is what it is mate



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On Mar 2, 2022, at 8:20 AM, francis newman <francis.newman [at] webshot.co.uk> wrote:

Clkyde

I think you are somewhat out of date with your assessement of food in London. I thik you’ll find it is now a "go to” place for eating with probably the most diverse range of cuisine on offer anywhere on the planet.

Francis

On 2 Mar 2022, at 12:43, Clarence Romero Jr. <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com> wrote:

Watch out for pick pockets in Rome they are all around the tourist sites
Rome is a nice city but very dirty, bring wipes with you
Food is good everywhere
Make a duplicate copy of your passport and carry that with you instead of the passport and leave a copy back home
It easier to get a replacement that way in case something happens
Also place a copy in your luggage
Get travel insurance in the event you get sick or worse hurt
Make sure the coverage will transport you back home
Remember these are Covid-19 times not normal
London is ok
Horrible food no one says “ let’s grab a flight to London to eat “
Lots of Indian and Thai food that’s excellent
Take the tours they cover everything in London
Rome you can see in 4 days
It’s a small city, you’ve been to bigger amusement parks !
Spanish steps and the fountains are big draws
The best restaurants are on the boulevard where the US embassy is ( can’t remember the name sorry)
That’s it for me on those 2 towns.
Hope this helps

I was an international airline pilot for over 35 years
There not many major cities in the world I haven’t been too.

PS get the  https://store.ricksteves.com/shop/guidebooks/italy,
They are excellent and spot on

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If you have no enemies, you have no character !

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On Mar 1, 2022, at 9:23 PM, 308 Misc <misc [at] 308systems.com> wrote:


Wow!  This is the stuff legends are made of, it reminds me of the Ferrari video Rendesvous…..although your son perhaps had a different ending J

Thanks for the tips, feel free to PM me with more Rome stories!

Mark

From: Anthony Bauco [mailto:tbauco [at] gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2022 5:22 PM
To: misc
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] London and Rome

That is indeed a blessing.  I know where you are right now and this trip will mean a lot to you in the future.

A couple of interesting stories.  First, my younger son was also 19 when we went.  My son had gotten a GF at college a few months prior to our trip.  After I planned out the whole trip I sent everyone the itinerary.  It turns out, his GF was going to be in Florence to take an art class for the winter semester at the same time we were going to be there.  Our B&B was on the other side of the city from the hotel she was staying in.  Every morning he would grab a quick bite and literally run across Florence to "see" her.  The B&B owner laughed and said, "of course, he is Italian!".  Great B&B and the owner was hysterical.

The second story is about the Colosseum.  My father was from a town just southeast of Rome.  One of his uncles traced our family tree back to ancient Rome.  I can't remember if it was 200BC or 200AD.  Either way, this individual at the top of the tree was a soldier in the Roman Army.  He was given a huge piece of land outside of Rome for his service.  Exactly why, I am not sure.  But the family has lived in this area ever since.  From that point on, most of the generations were farmers.  In addition to farming, this individual also fought as a gladiator in the Colusseum.  But the family name was derived from Latin from a term related to the farming.  I think is has to do with cattle fertility.  

I have another cool story about our trip if you are interested.  The B&B in Florence is Villa LA Sosta.

On Tue, Mar 1, 2022, 12:57 PM misc <misc [at] 308systems.com> wrote:
Thanks for the pointers Anthony!

I've never been to Rome and really looking forward to it!

Spending 10 dedicated days with my son is also a blessing, what family history do you have with the coliseum?

Mark

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From: Anthony Bauco <tbauco [at] gmail.com>
Date: 3/1/22 6:10 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: 308 Misc <misc [at] 308systems.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] London and Rome

I assume you already made plans to go to the Ferrari museum, yes?

My favorite part of Rome is St. Peter's.  The Sistine Chapel is cool too, for obvious reasons.  I was underwhelmed by the Vatican Museum.  The Colloseum is ok but probably something you want to put on your list.  I had to bring my son's there because we have family history with it.  The Trevi fountain is nice but, damn, the crowds are crazy.  Most importantly, eat a lot.  Take in as many classic Roman dishes as you can, including Tripe.  If you are going between Maranello and Rome, you really should visit wineries in Tuscany and Florence.  The Uffizi in Florence was not that great in my opinion but visit the museum that has the Statue of David.  Good lord Micheangelo was amazing.  Hit the Duomo and walk around the city.  It is really nice.  And, again, EAT.

On Tue, Mar 1, 2022, 12:45 AM 308 Misc <misc [at] 308systems.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I have the pleasure of exploring London and Rome with my 19yo son March 12 – 20, and threw a hail mary factory tour request.  We are attending the Manchester United game on the 15th, do you have any suggestions for cool/offbeat things to experience in either the London/Manchester, Rome area?

Thanks a million!
Mark
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