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From: Clarence Romero Jr. (clyderomerof4gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 04:15:18 -0700 (PDT)

Thank you Chris I will go through the checks tomorrow

RF4-4EVR

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On Sep 17, 2022, at 9:41 PM, CHRIS HILL via Ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> wrote:

Clyde Romero, the shock motors reset every time you turn the ignition on, they test the range of motion and return to either standard or sport depending on your selection, the gear at the top of the shaft that adjusts the shock is made out of pot metal and they fracture, the system I believe is called the bilstein fx3 that also came on corvettes.

https://www.corvettebuyers.com/c4vettes/fx3.htm
This guy below sells the gears and rebuilds the actuators.

https://www.captainzcnc.com/

Thank you
Chris Hill

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  1. Way too many models in the next 3 years (Brian E. Buxton)
  2. Re: Way too many models in the next 3 years (Michel Savard)
  3. Re: Way too many models in the next 3 years (Erik Nielsen)
  4. Re: Way too many models in the next 3 years (Brian E. Buxton)
  5. Re: Way too many models in the next 3 years (Erik Nielsen)
  6. Re: Way too many models in the next 3 years (Michel Savard)
  7. Re: Way too many models in the next 3 years (Erik Nielsen)
  8. Suspension fault (Clarence Romero Jr.)

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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2022 17:21:28 -0500
From: "Brian E. Buxton" <buxtonmotorsports [at] gmail.com>
To: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: [Ferrari] Way too many models in the next 3 years
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I'm not understanding Ferrari's business model here.? Why SO many new
models in such a short span of time?? Are they planning to make all of
these plus what's currently offered simultaneously?

Ferrari To Launch 15 Cars By 2026, Including New Hypercar And
EV.,,https://www.motor1.com/news/592532/ferrari-launch-15-cars-by-2026/

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Brian E. Buxton

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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2022 18:24:32 -0400
From: Michel Savard <mysavard [at] videotron.ca>
To: "Brian E. Buxton" <buxtonmotorsports [at] gmail.com>
Cc: ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Way too many models in the next 3 years
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Same here. I used to be able to name them without hesitation, just with a glimpse. Now, there are just too many. I have to pause, look and take a chance before I name a model.
Michael Savard (1981 308 GTSi)

On Sep 17, 2022, at 6:21 PM, Brian E. Buxton <buxtonmotorsports [at] gmail.com> wrote:

I'm not understanding Ferrari's business model here. Why SO many new models in such a short span of time? Are they planning to make all of these plus what's currently offered simultaneously?

Ferrari To Launch 15 Cars By 2026, Including New Hypercar And EV.,,https://www.motor1.com/news/592532/ferrari-launch-15-cars-by-2026/

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Brian E. Buxton

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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2022 17:44:52 -0500
From: Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com>
To: Michel Savard <mysavard [at] videotron.ca>
Cc: ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Way too many models in the next 3 years
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Because they have a fan base that has to get the latest and greatest. While still attempting to limit overall production.

They?ve got their core customers hooked on the cycle. If you don?t get the latest and greatest, you?re not in the target audience.

Bugatti is a bit more transparent, they have admitted that they rank customers on total MSRP spend. That?s the order you get called in for the next limited edition what ever.

Personally, I?d rather read a good book than get stuck on that hamster wheel.

On Sep 17, 2022, at 5:24 PM, Michel Savard <mysavard [at] videotron.ca> wrote:

?Same here. I used to be able to name them without hesitation, just with a glimpse. Now, there are just too many. I have to pause, look and take a chance before I name a model.
Michael Savard (1981 308 GTSi)

On Sep 17, 2022, at 6:21 PM, Brian E. Buxton <buxtonmotorsports [at] gmail.com> wrote:

I'm not understanding Ferrari's business model here. Why SO many new models in such a short span of time? Are they planning to make all of these plus what's currently offered simultaneously?

Ferrari To Launch 15 Cars By 2026, Including New Hypercar And EV.,,https://www.motor1.com/news/592532/ferrari-launch-15-cars-by-2026/

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Brian E. Buxton

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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2022 18:31:31 -0500
From: "Brian E. Buxton" <buxtonmotorsports [at] gmail.com>
To: Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com>
Cc: ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Way too many models in the next 3 years
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In 2021 they built over 11,100 cars.? I guess that's still low volume.
https://www.motor1.com/news/564806/ferrari-2021-sales-record/ What did
they build in the 80's?? 4,000 annually?

I don't really get the "buy every new model to get what you really want
later" mindset but if you have the money ... If I won $100M in the
lottery there isn't a brand new Ferrari I'd write a check for.? I'd
start with a 458 Spider, a 73 Daytona Spyder, a 1994 512TR and go from
there.? None of their new cars appeal to me at all, and I have a couple
of friends with 488's, F8 Tributos etc.

B

On 9/17/22 5:44 PM, Erik Nielsen wrote:
Bugatti is a bit more transparent, they have admitted that they rank customers on total MSRP spend. That?s the order you get called in for the next limited edition what ever.
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Brian E. Buxton

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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2022 18:44:35 -0500
From: Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com>
To: "Brian E. Buxton" <buxtonmotorsports [at] gmail.com>
Cc: ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Way too many models in the next 3 years
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There is a crowd out there that wouldn't be caught dead with last week's
newspaper and absolutely needs that latest and greatest to validate who
they are. Unfortunately instagram has raised their profile.

They are the most banal and vapid people you've ever met. I tend to handle
them like they're radioactive. It's all about time, distance and shielding
with that phenotype. Hard pass.

On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 6:31 PM Brian E. Buxton <buxtonmotorsports [at] gmail.com>
wrote:

In 2021 they built over 11,100 cars. I guess that's still low volume.
https://www.motor1.com/news/564806/ferrari-2021-sales-record/ What did
they build in the 80's? 4,000 annually?

I don't really get the "buy every new model to get what you really want
later" mindset but if you have the money ... If I won $100M in the
lottery there isn't a brand new Ferrari I'd write a check for. I'd
start with a 458 Spider, a 73 Daytona Spyder, a 1994 512TR and go from
there. None of their new cars appeal to me at all, and I have a couple
of friends with 488's, F8 Tributos etc.

B

On 9/17/22 5:44 PM, Erik Nielsen wrote:
Bugatti is a bit more transparent, they have admitted that they rank
customers on total MSRP spend. That?s the order you get called in for the
next limited edition what ever.
--
Brian E. Buxton

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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2022 20:36:48 -0400
From: Michel Savard <mysavard [at] videotron.ca>
To: Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com>
Cc: ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Way too many models in the next 3 years
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With the pandemic, the rich got richer and the poor, poorer. Just like the financial crisis in 2008. I?ll always remember reading an interview with Luca De Montezemolo back in the late 80s during another crisis. The interviewer asked him if he was worried that Ferrari would sale less cars. He answered by saying ?There will always be at least 4,000 people in the world rich enough to buy the entire production?. Well I guess he would say today, ?There will always be at least 11,000 people rich enough to buy the entire production?.

How about that guy 2 weeks ago who paid $16,000,000 for a Mickey Mantle baseball card and this guy this week who paid $10,000,000 for a Michael Jordan jersey. Now, they both could have bought A LOT of Ferrari with that money.

Michael Savard (1981 308 GTSi)

On Sep 17, 2022, at 7:44 PM, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:

There is a crowd out there that wouldn't be caught dead with last week's newspaper and absolutely needs that latest and greatest to validate who they are. Unfortunately instagram has raised their profile.

They are the most banal and vapid people you've ever met. I tend to handle them like they're radioactive. It's all about time, distance and shielding with that phenotype. Hard pass.

On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 6:31 PM Brian E. Buxton <buxtonmotorsports [at] gmail.com <mailto:buxtonmotorsports [at] gmail.com>> wrote:
In 2021 they built over 11,100 cars. I guess that's still low volume.
https://www.motor1.com/news/564806/ferrari-2021-sales-record/ <https://www.motor1.com/news/564806/ferrari-2021-sales-record/> What did
they build in the 80's? 4,000 annually?

I don't really get the "buy every new model to get what you really want
later" mindset but if you have the money ... If I won $100M in the
lottery there isn't a brand new Ferrari I'd write a check for. I'd
start with a 458 Spider, a 73 Daytona Spyder, a 1994 512TR and go from
there. None of their new cars appeal to me at all, and I have a couple
of friends with 488's, F8 Tributos etc.

B

On 9/17/22 5:44 PM, Erik Nielsen wrote:
Bugatti is a bit more transparent, they have admitted that they rank customers on total MSRP spend. That?s the order you get called in for the next limited edition what ever.
--
Brian E. Buxton
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2022 20:04:37 -0500
From: Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com>
To: Michel Savard <mysavard [at] videotron.ca>
Cc: ferrari <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Way too many models in the next 3 years
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On the plus side, you don?t have to change belts on the sports memorabilia.

That said, never saw the appeal of wearing some other guys name on a shirt. But after the pandemic and all of the social pandering, we?ve made it a rule in the house never to pay money to watch adults play a kids game ever again.

On Sep 17, 2022, at 7:36 PM, Michel Savard <mysavard [at] videotron.ca> wrote:

?With the pandemic, the rich got richer and the poor, poorer. Just like the financial crisis in 2008. I?ll always remember reading an interview with Luca De Montezemolo back in the late 80s during another crisis. The interviewer asked him if he was worried that Ferrari would sale less cars. He answered by saying ?There will always be at least 4,000 people in the world rich enough to buy the entire production?. Well I guess he would say today, ?There will always be at least 11,000 people rich enough to buy the entire production?.

How about that guy 2 weeks ago who paid $16,000,000 for a Mickey Mantle baseball card and this guy this week who paid $10,000,000 for a Michael Jordan jersey. Now, they both could have bought A LOT of Ferrari with that money.

Michael Savard (1981 308 GTSi)

On Sep 17, 2022, at 7:44 PM, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:

There is a crowd out there that wouldn't be caught dead with last week's newspaper and absolutely needs that latest and greatest to validate who they are. Unfortunately instagram has raised their profile.

They are the most banal and vapid people you've ever met. I tend to handle them like they're radioactive. It's all about time, distance and shielding with that phenotype. Hard pass.

On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 6:31 PM Brian E. Buxton <buxtonmotorsports [at] gmail.com> wrote:
In 2021 they built over 11,100 cars. I guess that's still low volume.
https://www.motor1.com/news/564806/ferrari-2021-sales-record/ What did
they build in the 80's? 4,000 annually?

I don't really get the "buy every new model to get what you really want
later" mindset but if you have the money ... If I won $100M in the
lottery there isn't a brand new Ferrari I'd write a check for. I'd
start with a 458 Spider, a 73 Daytona Spyder, a 1994 512TR and go from
there. None of their new cars appeal to me at all, and I have a couple
of friends with 488's, F8 Tributos etc.

B

On 9/17/22 5:44 PM, Erik Nielsen wrote:
Bugatti is a bit more transparent, they have admitted that they rank customers on total MSRP spend. That?s the order you get called in for the next limited edition what ever.
--
Brian E. Buxton
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2022 21:12:12 -0400
From: "Clarence Romero Jr." <clyderomerof4 [at] gmail.com>
To: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: [Ferrari] Suspension fault
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So I was in the 575 today and I got the suspension fault light
Triangles on the wheels in the caution panel
Seen this before, usually after a restart it goes away, this time it didn?t.
Has anyone else seen this with their car?
I let it sit for about. 5 hours with the battery charger on it and just restarted the car and no caution light this time.
Go figure, it is. 20 year old car but still, anyway will keep those of you whom are interested advised.
Reach out to me if you want to know what I find out .

    RF4-4EVR

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If you have no enemies, you have no character !

Clyde Romero

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Re: Ferrari Digest, Vol 194, Issue 12 CHRIS HILL, September 17 2022
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