Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Lift Questions (long)

[LS (lashdeep]

I usually end up working on the car below the first lock...I just work
quickly and without any additional strain when I have the lift in that
position. 

I did notice that last night, the lift does take a while to lower and
raise. But, I think it's something to just get used to.

I did get a chance to use a Nussbaum-2 and it was very quick. It hustled a
Lambo LM002 (aka Orca) up to full height quickly and without any strain.

They are expensive though.

LS

--- Jeff Greenfield <coyote [at] acme-ltd.com> wrote:

> < The only minor complaint I have about the Bendpak-2 is that there is a
> big
> gap between the lowest setting and the first lock. I've found myself
> sometimes wanting a position where access to the car from underhood and
> undercarriage was needed simultaneously.>
> 
> Yes, the locks on the bendpak don't start until about 2 feet up or so.
> But
> in a year and a half of using this lift to service cars everyday
> (remember,
> this is what I do, so it is not used on an occasional weekend), I have
> not
> found this to be a problem.
> 
> One of my complaints, is that the lift is kind of slow to come down,
> especially with a lightweight car on it.
> 
> Other than that, I'm pretty happy with it. So far, I have not run into
> anything that I could not lift, although on a few occasions I've had to
> get
> creative with some blocks of wood on the lift arms as the pads did not
> end
> up where they needed to be.
> 
> Jeff 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LS [mailto:lashdeep [at] yahoo.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 9:54 AM
> To: Jeff Greenfield
> Cc: 'The FerrariList'
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Lift Questions (long)
> 
> CG, Greg Weldy has a Assymetrical 2 post Bendpak and he's been very
> happy
> with it. I assisted with the install and it was fairly straightforward.
> Lifting those columns up was a welcomed workout, but tricky! The only
> minor complaint I have about the Bendpak-2 is that there is a big gap
> between the lowest setting and the first lock. I've found myself
> sometimes
> wanting a position where access to the car from underhood and
> undercarriage was needed simultaneously.
> 
> Not considering cars with removeable subframes, a 4 post-er sure has had
> my vote recently. I used a Rotary-4 to do some suspension work recently
> and it was painless and very stable (of course). It also allows for
> doing
> suspension setup or anything else where a loaded suspension is
> necessary.
> 
> Each has their pros (as Jeff has pointed out below)and cons. I'd get
> both,
> keep us posted!
> 
> LS
> --- Jeff Greenfield <coyote [at] acme-ltd.com> wrote:
> 
> > Lots of options and opinions, I'm sure that you'll get many different
> > answers depending on who you talk too.
> > 
> > I've worked with both styles of lifts, and spent a lot of time
> > researching
> > lifts, and deciding what to get for my shop before actually buying
> one.
> > 
> > Asymmetrical is far more convenient in that is makes it much easier to
> > get
> > in and out of the car as you can open generally open the door of the
> car
> > further (sometimes all the way depending the car) then you can with a
> > symmetrical lift. 
> > 
> > Asymmetrical is great for FWD, and most front engine RWD cars. I
> haven't
> > had
> > any problems putting everything from an Alfa spider, 308, or BMW 750iL
> > on my
> > lift. Which is for all intents and purposes an asymmetrical lift.
> > 
> > That being said, many lifts now, have extra long front arms (sometimes
> > an
> > option, sometimes not) which allow the lift to be used in either
> > configuration assuming the length of the bay is long enough to allow
> the
> > car
> > to be positioned further to the front or back of the lift depending on
> > what
> > you want to do.
> > 
> > The most important thing is to use common sense, pick the car up a
> foot
> > or
> > so, and do the 'bounce' test my pushing/jumping on the ends of the car
> > to be
> > sure it is stable.
> > 
> > Rotary lifts are really nice, and if money is no object by all means
> go
> > ahead and get one. There are plenty of others out there that every bit
> > as
> > good for about half as much.
> > 
> > Mine is a Bendpak, which I bought online (www.asedeals.com) for
> > substantially less than any 'dealers' could offer it for, and
> installed
> > it
> > myself with the help of one other person. The bendpak does have
> long(er)
> > front arms and I believe is considered both symmetrical and
> asymmetrical
> > but
> > I'd have to look at the brochure to be sure.
> > 
> > Depending on the space, whether or not is new construction or not, and
> > budget (the latter being the determining factor) there some other
> pretty
> > neat options out there.
> >  
> > Twin post in ground would be my first choice for a new floor if money
> > were
> > no object. Another option would be full-height scissor lift (google
> > Nussbaum
> > lifts out of germany), however this does have some limitations has to
> > under
> > car access. The advantage of both these styles is that there is pretty
> > much
> > clear floor space. Those two columns really take up a lot of a floor
> > space.
> > 
> > OTH, you can't beat an above ground two post for all around
> versatility
> > and
> > price. Also, there is a big variation among the above ground lifts for
> > width
> > spacing of the columns, if space is of a concern (as it was in my
> shop)
> > then
> > this is also a big consideration. A lot of lifts are now designed to
> > have
> > the capability to pick up large trucks and SUV's. So, if you're never
> > going
> > to work on those, than it is wasted space.
> > 
> > LMK if you have any questions, BTDTGTTS.
> > 
> > I'll try to send along a photo or two of my shop this week, after I
> get
> > back
> > home.
> > 
> > 
> > Jeff
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Charles G. Perry IV [mailto:charles [at] carolina-sound.com] 
> > Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 9:44 PM
> > To: Jeff Greenfield
> > Cc: The FerrariList
> > Subject: [Ferrari] Lift Questions
> > 
> > To those of you who know or may have researched lifts:
> > 
> > I am considering a Rotary two-post lift for a future property. They
> have
> > two
> > basic designs, symmetrical and asymmetrical. They list their
> advantages
> > as
> > follows:
> > 
> > Asymmetrical: 
> > -- Places center of gravity of vehicle in line with columns optimal
> load
> > capacity
> > -- Allows maximum opening of door for interior access
> > 
> > Symmetrical:
> > -- Vehicle load is centered between posts to maximize lift capacity
> > -- More width between columns for larger vehicles
> > 
> > Which lift is more appropriate to working on mid-engine cars in
> general,
> > and
> > specifically Ferraris where the rear subframe must come out for engine
> > maintenance (TR/355/??). Considering it's hard to predict future
> > purchases,
> > are there any other things you would recommend thinking about when
> > shopping
> > for a lift or choosing a design?
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > -- charles
> > 
> > 
> 
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