Ferrari Mailing List: Re: My Experience with a Kit Car Owner

[LS (lashdeep]

Shame on me...both the GT350s have 9" rears...forgot that an 8 inch even
existed. Everything outside of the concours field has been modded with an
8.8 or a 9 inch it's surprising that some of the older diffs are even
being used.

Is there such a thing as ponycar snobbery? 

LS

--- Dave Craig <dave.craig [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Lashdeep,
> 
> It's an early Ford rear end.
> 
> Early Fords used 7 1/4", 7 3/4", 8", 8 3/4", and the popular 9" rear
> ends in
> many different models and castings of each.  Just in the 1965 Mustang
> line
> of cars, the 7 1/4" rear ends were in the straight 6 170ci and 200ci
> cars,
> the 8" was used in all of the 289 cars, and the 8 3/4" was used in the K
> code (289 High Performance) cars.  The 9" rear end wasn't used in the
> Mustang line until 1967 with the advent of the 390 cars.  In 1968 Ford
> dropped the 7 1/4" and 7 3/4" rear ends from the Mustang line of car but
> kept the 8", 8 3/4" and the 9" in the line up.  I believe they kept this
> line up of rear ends until the Mustang II came out (I could be wrong
> here,
> my books stop at 1968).
> 
> I know that Ford was making the 8" and the 9" rear ends as early as 65
> in
> the Falcon and the Mustang but I am not sure if they were made earlier. 
> The
> first 8" model that my book indicates is the WDK-A 3.00:1 ratio 28
> spline
> for the Falcon and WCZ-E 2.80:1 ratio 28 spline for the Mustang.  But
> both
> of my Ford parts books start at 1965, so Ford was probably making this
> much
> earlier.  Ford Muscle Parts Identifier and Restoration Guide 1965-1972. 
> And
> Ford Parts Identifier 1965-1968 Mustang Edition.
> 
> Here is how you tell them apart
> http://www.kevinstang.com/Ninecase.htm
> 
> 
> Dave Craig
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LS [mailto:lashdeep [at] yahoo.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 12:27 PM
> To: Dave Craig
> Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] My Experience with a Kit Car Owner
> 
> That looks like a cool 250 kit...but when did Ford start making an 8
> inch
> rear?
> 
> LS
> 
> --- Dave Craig <dave.craig [at] sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
> > Britt,
> > 
> > Very good points.
> > 
> > And I have also been in some kit cars that were just great cars!
> > 
> > Personally it comes down to the quality of the car in question and
> which
> > car
> > did they copy.  I have seen kit cars that you really just have to
> laugh
> > at
> > and go on.  I have seen kit cars that were nice, but just didn't suit
> my
> > personal taste.  And I have seen kit cars that I really would love to
> > have.
> > I personally think that the FactoryFive Cobras and Cobra Daytonas are
> > just
> > the ticket.  
> > http://www.factoryfive.com/
> > I want to buy and build one of these (someday when I actually have the
> > time).  But, interestingly enough, I really don't like their GTM
> > Supercar
> > (to me, it looks a bad copy of a 360). 
> > 
> > I also think it is interesting that at the Mid America Shelby Meet
> > (which is
> > always in Tulsa)
> > http://www.midamericafordmeet.com/
> > allows kit Cobras, kit Daytonas, and kit GT40s to be displayed right
> > along
> > side of the originals.  Well, maybe right along side of the originals
> > isn't
> > the correct wording; they actually give the originals preferred
> > placement.
> > But all of the Ford based kit cars are welcome to compete and show.   
> > 
> > Same thing with motorcycles.  I am a big V-Twin fan and have a thing
> for
> > choppers.  I have been looking at Bigdogs http://www.bdm.com/
> > and I have been toying with the idea of building my own from scratch
> > (once
> > again having that time problem).  I have seen home built motorcycles
> > that I
> > thought just sucked and I have seen some that would just make you
> drool.
> > And at motorcycle shows, it is the good home built ones that really
> draw
> > the
> > crowds, not the off the shelf bikes.  Motorcycles in general get
> cooler
> > as
> > you customize them.  And starting from scratch is just the Holy-Grail
> of
> > customizing.    
> > 
> > So, here is a test for everyone here; Let's say that the Ferris
> > Bueller's
> > Day Off 250 GT SWB CAL Spyder replica car (car is in fantastic
> > condition) is
> > for sale on eBay with a buy it now price of?
> > Who on this list would buy it and have fun driving it for:
> > $100K
> > $50K
> > $25K
> > $15K
> > $10K
> > $5K
> > $2K
> > $1K
> > $500
> > So, now that we have established what we are, now we are just arguing
> > over
> > the price.
> > :-)
> > And by the way, if you really want it, here it is.
> >
>
http://www.kitcarmag.com/featuredvehicles/5531_ferrari_spyder_replica_kit/
> > 
> > So, like I said at the beginning of this, it depends on the car in
> > question.
> > How good of a job was done creating it, how good of a car is it still,
> > which
> > car did they copy, how good of a copy is it, and most importantly, is
> it
> > a
> > car you would have fun driving? 
> > 
> > Dave Craig
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Britt2Asa [at] aol.com [mailto:Britt2Asa [at] aol.com] 
> > Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 11:00 AM
> > To: Dave Craig
> > Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] My Experience with a Kit Car Owner
> > 
> > I think this is a great topic.
> > When I was 15 I got a ride in a Kelmark that a boat owner had at a
> > marina in
> > 
> > St Augustine Florida next to my dads boat. Got me hooked on cars, on
> > Dinos, 
> > and 2 years later I got in a real Dino. 
> > 
> > BTW - Why doesn't anybody ever get worked up about Replica Boats? Is
> > there 
> > such a thing....Oh I couldn't afford a REAL Hunter Yacht so I built
> > one.....No, 
> > a person like that would get great respect for having the ability to
> > build 
> > their own boat....whys a car so different??
> > 
> > I would have loved to build or own a kit car when a teenager but
> > couldn't 
> > afford it so I got a Triumph Spitfire which was easy to work on, easy
> to
> > take 
> > apart and was everything a kit car would be except it was a "real"
> car.
> > 
> > I don't want a kitcar that much anymore but here in England its a BIG 
> > business. I have helped a good friend build TWO DAX Cobras which were
> > very i
> > mpressive. Each cost the equilivant of £90k US Dollars and sold
> > immediately
> > for a 
> > profit....very high standard and in big demand when done right. The
> > Ultima
> > is a kit 
> > car and thats a pretty impressive car as well...
> > 
> > Havr you guys ever seen the Chesil Speedsters?
> http://www.chesil.co.uk/
> > Sold 
> > here ready to go for £25k or thereabouts and its a great looking
> little
> > car;
> > 
> > many owners use them every day and they are always featured at the big
> > Classic 
> > and Sports Car Show at the NEC every year in Birmingham....
> > 
> > There is a company in Devon that makes a fantastic copy of a Jag SS100
> 
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