Re: 288GTO Vs 308/328
From: Dave Handa (davedavehanda.com)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:09:31 -0700 (PDT)
SD1, SD2 and SD3 are the Ferrari issued computers.  SD3 is the latest, and
most current.  



-----Original Message-----
From: John Allison [mailto:johnallison [at] gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 1:40 PM
To: dave [at] davehanda.com
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 288GTO Vs 308/328

I recanted to Ric, but apparently not the whole list.

My memory seems rather shot at the moment.  Could someone help remind  
me of the proprietary computers that ferrari gives only to their  
dealers, and the main uses of that computer, other than diagnostics?   
I am thinking of ones that are specific to either the 355 or the 360.

Thanks
John

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 20, 2007, at 2:59 PM, "Mark Manzonelli" <mmanzo [at] sbcglobal.net>  
wrote:

> Reset what in the system?? I have a 355 am I never reset anything.   
> There is no oil usage meter, no oil change light...What do I need to  
> reset?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Allison
> To: Manzo
> Cc: The FerrariList
> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 11:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 288GTO Vs 308/328
>
> $$$$$$!
>
> Need the proprietary computer to reset the system after the oil
> change.  So basically, unless you're DOUG with phantom contacts
> you'll have a hard time ge
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 20, 2007, at 10:56 AM, cdatte [at] spawar.navy.mil wrote:
>
> > curious why dealer intervention on an oil change ?
> >
> > At 05:25 AM 7/20/2007, clyde wrote:
> >> The 328 is the way togo
> >> It is a great car that is easy to work on and has GM air
> >> They are bullet proof as well
> >>
> >> The 355/360 require dealer intervention for a basic oil change!
> >>
> >> Clyde
> >> Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: "LarryT" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
> >> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 07:42:50
> >> To:clyde <clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net>
> >> Cc:The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 288GTO Vs 308/328
> >>
> >> Hi Ric,
> >> Thanks for the very detailed comparision!  The depth of knowledge
> >> on this
> >> list always amazes me.
> >> It;s easy to see how passionate all of you are about these great
> >> cars!  A
> >> 328GTSi  is still high on
> >> my list of "cars to buy" when the money is available - although the
> >> 355 &
> >> 360 are pretty high on that list also.
> >>
> >> I am curious about one of your comments -
> >> You wrote:<<Neither is the front bonnet [interchangible], as I
> >> think it's
> >> composite (vs. aluminum on the 308's). The roof panel is not
> >> interchangeable either for the same reason>>
> >>
> >> Why would the material of construction prevent a part from being
> >> interchangible - as
> >> long as the dimensions are the same?
> >>
> >> Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
> >> www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts
> >> Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
> >> PORSCHE POSTERS!  youroil.net
> >> Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
> >> .
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Ric Rainbolt" <ricrainbolt [at] gmail.com>
> >> To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
> >> Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> >> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 4:38 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 288GTO Vs 308/328
> >>
> >>
> >>> There seems to be much misinformation about this car.
> >>>
> >>> The engine is the basic 4 valve 308 motor. The block is virtually
> >>> identical to that used in the 308QV and 328. Oher than some  
> hardware
> >>> pickup points, the casting is the same. The liners are different  
> as
> >>> the bore is 80mm (vs 81 in 308's). The crankshaft is identical and
> >>> carries the same part number as that found in all 308s, and 208s.
> >>> The
> >>> con-rods are unique to the 288 and F40, but the bearings, bearing
> >>> caps, front crank damper are all from the 308 design. The pistons
> >>> are
> >>> lower compression, but similar to those used in the 4V cars. The
> >>> cylinder heads have some minor casting difference but are  
> virtually
> >>> identical to 308 QV heads. The camshafts are the same part numbers
> >>> as
> >>> the euro 308 QVs.
> >>>
> >>> The front timing cover is almost identical to that used in the dry
> >>> sump GTBs, as is the sump pumping system. The oil pan and rear
> >>> covers
> >>> are unique to the GTO.
> >>>
> >>> The body uses the same front glass, door glass, rear glass and
> >>> taillights as a 308 GTB. Other small odds and ends are
> >>> interchangeable (side markers, the headlight buckets) with 308s.
> >>>
> >>> The car is approx 4 inches longer in wheelbase, and wider due to
> >>> wider tires, not due to chassis width. The door skins are not
> >>> interchangeable. Neither is the front bonnet, as I think it's
> >>> composite (vs. aluminum on the 308's). The roof panel is not
> >>> interchangeable either for the same reason. The front and rear
> >>> bumpers are unique as well.
> >>>
> >>> The brakes are the same ATE system used on the TR (similar to the
> >>> 308, but larger pads and rotors). The ignition system is unique to
> >>> the GTO. The steering rack is a TRW metric rack, just like the  
> 308,
> >>> but has a different ratio.
> >>>
> >>> The front and rear suspension components are similar in design to
> >>> the
> >>> TR, but carry different part numbers.
> >>>
> >>> Thus endeth the trivia lesson,
> >>> Ric Rainbolt
> >>>
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