Re: 288GTO Vs 308/328
From: Rick Lindsay (rolindsayyahoo.com)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:34:31 -0700 (PDT)
You guys need to challenge Ric Rainbolt to clone these
computers.  After all, Ric basically invented the
video card for Commodore a zillion years ago!!!

rick

--- Dave Handa <dave [at] davehanda.com> wrote:

> SD1, SD2 and SD3 are the Ferrari issued computers. 
> SD3 is the latest, and
> most current.  
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Allison [mailto:johnallison [at] gmail.com] 
> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 1:40 PM
> To: dave [at] davehanda.com
> Cc: The FerrariList
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 288GTO Vs 308/328
> 
> I recanted to Ric, but apparently not the whole
> list.
> 
> My memory seems rather shot at the moment.  Could
> someone help remind  
> me of the proprietary computers that ferrari gives
> only to their  
> dealers, and the main uses of that computer, other
> than diagnostics?   
> I am thinking of ones that are specific to either
> the 355 or the 360.
> 
> Thanks
> John
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 20, 2007, at 2:59 PM, "Mark Manzonelli"
> <mmanzo [at] sbcglobal.net>  
> wrote:
> 
> > Reset what in the system?? I have a 355 am I never
> reset anything.   
> > There is no oil usage meter, no oil change
> light...What do I need to  
> > reset?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: John Allison
> > To: Manzo
> > Cc: The FerrariList
> > Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 11:34 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 288GTO Vs 308/328
> >
> > $$$$$$!
> >
> > Need the proprietary computer to reset the system
> after the oil
> > change.  So basically, unless you're DOUG with
> phantom contacts
> > you'll have a hard time ge
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Jul 20, 2007, at 10:56 AM,
> cdatte [at] spawar.navy.mil wrote:
> >
> > > curious why dealer intervention on an oil change
> ?
> > >
> > > At 05:25 AM 7/20/2007, clyde wrote:
> > >> The 328 is the way togo
> > >> It is a great car that is easy to work on and
> has GM air
> > >> They are bullet proof as well
> > >>
> > >> The 355/360 require dealer intervention for a
> basic oil change!
> > >>
> > >> Clyde
> > >> Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: "LarryT" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
> > >> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 07:42:50
> > >> To:clyde <clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net>
> > >> Cc:The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> > >> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 288GTO Vs 308/328
> > >>
> > >> Hi Ric,
> > >> Thanks for the very detailed comparision!  The
> depth of knowledge
> > >> on this
> > >> list always amazes me.
> > >> It;s easy to see how passionate all of you are
> about these great
> > >> cars!  A
> > >> 328GTSi  is still high on
> > >> my list of "cars to buy" when the money is
> available - although the
> > >> 355 &
> > >> 360 are pretty high on that list also.
> > >>
> > >> I am curious about one of your comments -
> > >> You wrote:<<Neither is the front bonnet
> [interchangible], as I
> > >> think it's
> > >> composite (vs. aluminum on the 308's). The roof
> panel is not
> > >> interchangeable either for the same reason>>
> > >>
> > >> Why would the material of construction prevent
> a part from being
> > >> interchangible - as
> > >> long as the dimensions are the same?
> > >>
> > >> Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
> > >> www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber
> Parts
> > >> Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
> > >> PORSCHE POSTERS!  youroil.net
> > >> Weber Carb Info
> http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
> > >> .
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Ric Rainbolt" <ricrainbolt [at] gmail.com>
> > >> To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
> > >> Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> > >> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 4:38 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 288GTO Vs 308/328
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> There seems to be much misinformation about
> this car.
> > >>>
> > >>> The engine is the basic 4 valve 308 motor. The
> block is virtually
> > >>> identical to that used in the 308QV and 328.
> Oher than some  
> > hardware
> > >>> pickup points, the casting is the same. The
> liners are different  
> > as
> > >>> the bore is 80mm (vs 81 in 308's). The
> crankshaft is identical and
> > >>> carries the same part number as that found in
> all 308s, and 208s.
> > >>> The
> > >>> con-rods are unique to the 288 and F40, but
> the bearings, bearing
> > >>> caps, front crank damper are all from the 308
> design. The pistons
> > >>> are
> > >>> lower compression, but similar to those used
> in the 4V cars. The
> > >>> cylinder heads have some minor casting
> difference but are  
> > virtually
> > >>> identical to 308 QV heads. The camshafts are
> the same part numbers
> > >>> as
> > >>> the euro 308 QVs.
> > >>>
> > >>> The front timing cover is almost identical to
> that used in the dry
> > >>> sump GTBs, as is the sump pumping system. The
> oil pan and rear
> > >>> covers
> > >>> are unique to the GTO.
> > >>>
> > >>> The body uses the same front glass, door
> glass, rear glass and
> > >>> taillights as a 308 GTB. Other small odds and
> ends are
> > >>> interchangeable (side markers, the headlight
> buckets) with 308s.
> > >>>
> > >>> The car is approx 4 inches longer in
> wheelbase, and wider due to
> > >>> wider tires, not due to chassis width. The
> door skins are not
> > >>> interchangeable. Neither is the front bonnet,
> as I think it's
> > >>> composite (vs. aluminum on the 308's). The
> roof panel is not
> > >>> interchangeable either for the same reason.
> The front and rear
> > >>> bumpers are unique as well.
> > >>>
> > >>> The brakes are the same ATE system used on the
> TR (similar to the
> > >>> 308, but larger pads and rotors). The ignition
> system is unique to
> > >>> the GTO. The steering rack is a TRW metric
> rack, just like the  
> > 308,
> > >>> but has a different ratio.
> > >>>
> > >>> The front and rear suspension components are
> similar in design to
> > >>> the
> > >>> TR, but carry different part numbers.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thus endeth the trivia lesson,
> > >>> Ric Rainbolt
> > >>>
> > >>>
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