Ferrari Mailing List: Re: GP Japan (spoiler)

[Dave Craig (dave.craig]

Charles,

That was the rule, but I believe it is no longer in play.  

Here is an abridged version of the 2007 FIA Tire rules.

<<For 2007 onwards, Formula One racing features just one tyre supplier, with
all teams using identical Bridgestone rubber. The aims of this move are to
create closer racing and to reduce testing and development costs.

At each Grand Prix every team will be given access to two specifications of
dry-weather tyre and each driver must make use of both specifications during
the race (wet races excepted). A white groove on the tread of the softer of
the two available compounds will allow spectators to distinguish which tyre
a driver is using. 

Over the race weekend, each driver has access to 14 sets of dry-weather
tyres. Four of those sets (two sets of each specification) may be used on
Friday, with the remaining 10 sets (five of each specification) available
from Saturday morning onwards. Prior to qualifying each driver must
surrender one set of each specification. 

The dry-weather tyres have four grooves and the spacing and depth of these
grooves must conform to strict specifications. Although there are currently
no regulations on tyre wear during a race, the FIA reserve the right to
introduce appropriate procedures if they feel teams are obtaining a
performance gain from using very worn tyres.

Teams are free to use wet-weather tyres as they see fit during qualifying
and the race. However, during the preceding practice sessions wet-weather
tyres may only be used if the track has been declared wet by the race
director. Bridgestone may bring different types of wet-weather tyre to cope
with various conditions, but all must be pre-approved by the FIA. 

All tyres are given a bar code at the start of the weekend so that the FIA
can closely monitor their use and ensure that no team is breaking
regulations.>>

The unabridged version is here.
http://www.formula1.com/inside_f1/rules_and_regulations/sporting_regulations
/511/fia.html


So, basically, each team must run during the race (except for changing
weather conditions) a complete set of Prime tires and a complete set of
Option tires (no mixing of tires is allowed).  If the team needs more than
two sets of tires, they get to choose which tire they want to run for the
other stents.  Each team gets to determine which tire to start on,
regardless of which tire was on the car during their qualifying lap, and
which tires they will run for each stent (provided they comply with the rule
of using both the Prime and the Option tires at least once).  Once wet tires
are used, then the teams can run any tires they want.  And according to the
way I read the rules, a team could put on wet tires and run them during a
race even if was a bright sunny day. It would be stupid, but you appear to
be legally allowed to do it.

Dave

  

-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Perry [mailto:charles [at] carolina-sound.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:35 AM
To: Dave Craig
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] GP Japan (spoiler)

I haven't read the whole regulations, but don't they have to declare a
tire the day before (qualifying tire), like the fuel load? I thought the
cars were entirely in parc ferme conditions after qualifying where they
couldn't change anything. That was the only thing that made sense to me
as to why they hadn't started on extreme wet - perhaps they thought they
weren't allowed to change their prior decision, at least before doing
one lap and bringing the car in to change on a pit stop...

I also thought it was funny that Kimi in the post race interview said
they (FIA) had forced them to come in for extreme wet. After that
initial lap, did he really think Ferrari would've stayed out on the
intermediates? The cars were undriveable...

-- charles

 

-----Original Message-----
From: cmlf1 [at] optonline.net [mailto:cmlf1 [at] optonline.net] 
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 10:32 AM
To: Charles Perry
Cc: 'The FerrariList'
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] GP Japan (spoiler)

Even if they did not get the notification, who in their right mind
thought they could run on wet tires as opposed to extreme wets? They
usually have great strategy, but that was a huge blunder, regardless of
notification.
 
Carl

----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Craig 
Date: Monday, October 1, 2007 12:28 am
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] GP Japan (spoiler)
To: cmlf1 [at] optonline.net
Cc: 'The FerrariList' 

> Steve,
> 
> That was my exact same thoughts. Ferrari really looked stupid 
> today. (Even
> if Ferrari was allowed to be on Inters, it was obvious to 
> everyone that
> Extreme Wets was the correct choice for the entire day.) But, I 
> will say
> that they finished pretty good for starting out with their heads 
> up their
> butts. Imagine how they might have finished if they hadn't 
> started out dead
> last. And I also didn't like that fake pit stop method of 
> getting Kimi past
> Massa. Why not have Massa run wide off of a corner (just like 
> Kimi did at
> least 10 times today) and let Kimi pass that way. Then you can 
> hold onto
> your 3-4 finish instead of the 3-6 finish (which was almost a 3-
> 7 finish).
> I think the team looked stupid today and the drivers turned what 
> should have
> been a lost day into something almost acceptable. 
> 
> Dave 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Jenkins [mailto:steve [at] stevejenkins.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 10:11 PM
> To: Dave Craig
> Cc: The FerrariList
> Subject: [Ferrari] GP Japan (spoiler)
> 
> Damn. I felt cold and wet just sitting on my couch and watching 
> it on TV.
> I'm glad Steve Cook and I didn't stay in Japan the extra week in 
> order to
> catch pneumonia and watch a Safety Car enjoy a lapping day... 
> Not a fun race
> to watch, but glad that Kimi clawed his way back to the podium, 
> and any time
> Alonso gets a goose egg is awesome. Hmm... maybe not such a bad 
> race after
> all. :)
> 
> But WTF was up with the Ferrari tire situation? You're telling 
> me that the
> guys in the SPEED announcer booth thousands of miles away from 
> Japan knew
> that everyone had to be on full-wets, but the Scuderia didn't? 
> HOW DOES THAT
> HAPPEN?????????
> 
> SteveJ
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