Ferrari Mailing List: Re: 1985 Mondial

[Dave Handa (dave]

Won't happen.  The current owner of the Mondial will set it to a parts
recycler before he sold it for $3k.

That is the more realistic outcome...either it is parted out now, or someone
will buy and fix it to get it running, and it will get run further into the
ground, then parted out.

With some luck, the prices might rise enough to make fixing it worthwhile
and it is saved...if it can hold out for another 20 years.

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: LarryT [mailto:l02turner [at] comcast.net] 
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 5:15 PM
To: dave [at] davehanda.com
Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 1985 Mondial

Howdy,
    So,...in the end it has come to a decision based on the financials, as 
it must.  Even so, I hope someone can save that Mondial.  Hate to see any 
great old car left to rot away.  But it won't be the 1t and certainly not 
the last one to do so.

    But, with the price of parts what they are, it's a good decision.   I 
guess  it would only be a viable project if the seller would let you have it

for $3k or less.   You know, you could make a low ball  (actually more 
realistic) offer.  As the owner sits and watches his Ferrari sit and slowly 
get covered by snow this winter he may get a twinge of realism and decide 
$3k isn't so low after all - especially since his perceived value will go 
down with each pasing day.  And you could end up with a car that putting 
$10k into makes some sense.

Good luck - BTW, I'm slowly restoring my 67 (actually a 66) MGB Roadster. 
Even a simple car like the B is incredibly complex when it has been totally 
stripped.  I'm putting a new wiring harness in now along with the 
windshield, dash with instruments at the moment.  The carpet and new seats 
are next.  Then I'll *only* have a mountain of work remaining - take care -

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "rl100sl" <rl100sl [at] comcast.net>
To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
Cc: <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 1985 Mondial


> Hi,
>
> Thanks for all the replies they just re-enforced what I already thought. 
> I
> did not take any pictures but I probably made it worse then it really was.
> I am going to pass on it although I wouldn't mind a project (restored an
> 1971 MGB years ago), I don't think I have the time to devote to this.  I
> have always enjoyed reading this list  (even the rants) and I have learned

> a
> ton from you folks.  Thanks again!!
>
>
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> From: "clyde romero" <clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net>
> To: "Richard LeRoy" <rl100sl [at] comcast.net>
> Cc: <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 1985 Mondial
>
>
>>I agree here as well nut you can get a better car in a 328
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dan Warlick [mailto:edwf430 [at] bellsouth.net]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:30 AM
>> To: clyde
>> Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 1985 Mondial
>>
>> There's always the 308GTB/4.The last time I looked  in that price range
>> you
>> can actually get a nice serviced car.
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>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Rick Lindsay" <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com>
>> To: "Daniel" <edwf430 [at] bellsouth.net>
>> Cc: "'The FerrariList'" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:26 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 1985 Mondial
>>
>>
>>>I agree with Dennis.  I wouldn't go further than $8k
>>> or so though.  Having restored a 308GTB (in
>>> cooperation with Ric Rainbolt) I can tell you that if
>>> you restore it, you will have up to twice its restored
>>> value invested.  Then again, I have done just
>>> that(multiple times)because the fun-factor can have
>>> great value (to me).  Therefore, Big D's suggestion of
>>> cleaning up the cosmetics and fixing/stabilizing the
>>> mechanical things that can cause catastrophic failure
>>> - will give you a fun ride at a manageable price.
>>> Then you can still part it out and recover your costs!
>>>
>>> rick
>>>
>>> --- Dennis Liu <bigheaddennis [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wow - 8 years of off-topic, ranting, flaming, etc.,
>>>> and you're still around?
>>>> Great for you!
>>>>
>>>> Gut check, I think that you could probably part it
>>>> out fairly easily for
>>>> $10k at least, given it's a QV engine.  I bet the
>>>> guy will take $11k-$12k.
>>>>
>>>> If you're just looking to get it running, and drive
>>>> around next summer with
>>>> the top down and enjoy it, what the hey, it's
>>>> topless fun for Miata money.
>>>> When you're done, sell it for what you've put into
>>>> it, or part it out, what
>>>> have you got to lose??
>>>>
>>>> Vty,
>>>>
>>>> --Dennis
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: rl100sl [mailto:rl100sl [at] comcast.net]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 11:05 PM
>>>> To: Dennis Liu
>>>> Cc: The FerrariList
>>>> Subject: [Ferrari] 1985 Mondial
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Been reading the list for 8+ years but have never
>>>> posted.  I went to look at
>>>> a 1985 Mondial Cab today that was advertised as not
>>>> running.  The body was
>>>> ok, some weird small dents on the drivers side by
>>>> where the top mounts and
>>>> some rust spots starting to show.  The paint on the
>>>> car was fair to poor,
>>>> the top could have been better, the leather was
>>>> cracking, the center console
>>>> was lifting by the switches.  The car did turn over
>>>> but it did not fire.
>>>> Could not smell any gas.  The seller has changed
>>>> plugs, fuel filter, fuel
>>>> pump (said he spent $1300 on parts) but could not
>>>> get it started.  It has
>>>> been sitting for at least this summer.  The seller
>>>> stated that the car ran
>>>> fine last year until it was parked and after winter
>>>> (stored outside but
>>>> covered) it would start then quit.  The car is in
>>>> Mass and has not had an
>>>> inspection since 2003.  Carfax shows no accidents
>>>> but does show evidence of
>>>> mileage rollback.  It went from 67,000 in 1997 to
>>>> 36,000 in 1999 when sold
>>>> at auction.  Currently is says 47,000.  So with all
>>>> the red flags waving and
>>>> since it wont start I cant get it to a ghetto,  what
>>>> do you think this car
>>>> is worth?  He is asking 15k  I was thinking 8k at
>>>> the most.  I wanted to get
>>>> a project car (looking for a 308/328) but this one
>>>> seems to need more work
>>>> then I want to throw in to it (plus money).
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>>
>>>> rich
>>>>
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