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Re: 1985 Mondial
From: LarryT (l02turnercomcast.net)
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 17:14:50 -0700 (PDT)
Howdy,
So,...in the end it has come to a decision based on the financials, as it must. Even so, I hope someone can save that Mondial. Hate to see any great old car left to rot away. But it won't be the 1t and certainly not the last one to do so.

But, with the price of parts what they are, it's a good decision. I guess it would only be a viable project if the seller would let you have it for $3k or less. You know, you could make a low ball (actually more realistic) offer. As the owner sits and watches his Ferrari sit and slowly get covered by snow this winter he may get a twinge of realism and decide $3k isn't so low after all - especially since his perceived value will go down with each pasing day. And you could end up with a car that putting $10k into makes some sense.

Good luck - BTW, I'm slowly restoring my 67 (actually a 66) MGB Roadster. Even a simple car like the B is incredibly complex when it has been totally stripped. I'm putting a new wiring harness in now along with the windshield, dash with instruments at the moment. The carpet and new seats are next. Then I'll *only* have a mountain of work remaining - take care -

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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----- Original Message ----- From: "rl100sl" <rl100sl [at] comcast.net>
To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
Cc: <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 1985 Mondial


Hi,

Thanks for all the replies they just re-enforced what I already thought. I
did not take any pictures but I probably made it worse then it really was.
I am going to pass on it although I wouldn't mind a project (restored an
1971 MGB years ago), I don't think I have the time to devote to this. I
have always enjoyed reading this list (even the rants) and I have learned a
ton from you folks. Thanks again!!


----- Original Message ----- From: "clyde romero" <clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net>
To: "Richard LeRoy" <rl100sl [at] comcast.net>
Cc: <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 1985 Mondial


I agree here as well nut you can get a better car in a 328




Clyde

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-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Warlick [mailto:edwf430 [at] bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:30 AM
To: clyde
Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 1985 Mondial

There's always the 308GTB/4.The last time I looked  in that price range
you
can actually get a nice serviced car.

Dan Warlick
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Lindsay" <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com>
To: "Daniel" <edwf430 [at] bellsouth.net>
Cc: "'The FerrariList'" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 1985 Mondial


I agree with Dennis.  I wouldn't go further than $8k
or so though.  Having restored a 308GTB (in
cooperation with Ric Rainbolt) I can tell you that if
you restore it, you will have up to twice its restored
value invested.  Then again, I have done just
that(multiple times)because the fun-factor can have
great value (to me).  Therefore, Big D's suggestion of
cleaning up the cosmetics and fixing/stabilizing the
mechanical things that can cause catastrophic failure
- will give you a fun ride at a manageable price.
Then you can still part it out and recover your costs!

rick

--- Dennis Liu <bigheaddennis [at] gmail.com> wrote:

Wow - 8 years of off-topic, ranting, flaming, etc.,
and you're still around?
Great for you!

Gut check, I think that you could probably part it
out fairly easily for
$10k at least, given it's a QV engine.  I bet the
guy will take $11k-$12k.

If you're just looking to get it running, and drive
around next summer with
the top down and enjoy it, what the hey, it's
topless fun for Miata money.
When you're done, sell it for what you've put into
it, or part it out, what
have you got to lose??

Vty,

--Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: rl100sl [mailto:rl100sl [at] comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 11:05 PM
To: Dennis Liu
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: [Ferrari] 1985 Mondial

Hi,

Been reading the list for 8+ years but have never
posted.  I went to look at
a 1985 Mondial Cab today that was advertised as not
running.  The body was
ok, some weird small dents on the drivers side by
where the top mounts and
some rust spots starting to show.  The paint on the
car was fair to poor,
the top could have been better, the leather was
cracking, the center console
was lifting by the switches.  The car did turn over
but it did not fire.
Could not smell any gas.  The seller has changed
plugs, fuel filter, fuel
pump (said he spent $1300 on parts) but could not
get it started.  It has
been sitting for at least this summer.  The seller
stated that the car ran
fine last year until it was parked and after winter
(stored outside but
covered) it would start then quit.  The car is in
Mass and has not had an
inspection since 2003.  Carfax shows no accidents
but does show evidence of
mileage rollback.  It went from 67,000 in 1997 to
36,000 in 1999 when sold
at auction.  Currently is says 47,000.  So with all
the red flags waving and
since it wont start I cant get it to a ghetto,  what
do you think this car
is worth?  He is asking 15k  I was thinking 8k at
the most.  I wanted to get
a project car (looking for a 308/328) but this one
seems to need more work
then I want to throw in to it (plus money).

thanks

rich

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