Ferrari Mailing List: Re: 308..Great thread

[red5hilser (red5hilser]

Hey Rick: "Nice car? ? Get serious! It's a stunning example of why I love the 
marque so much. To me it really resembles the NART Ferrari 250LM that Masten 
Gregory and Jocken Rindt drove to?win the 1965 24 Hours of Le Mans. Only 
without the hardtop.

Yer drooling pal, Ferrari Bubba

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Lindsay rolindsay [at] yahoo.com



That is a nice car Phil.  It needs only the kind of
attention I enjoy giving - but I already have a great
308 (and other toys).

rick

--- "philville dejazzd.com" <philville [at] dejazzd.com>
wrote:

> 
>    Great to see all the 308 enthusiasm, I knew that
> it was there, maybe
>    we are all starting to realise the value of these
> cars, no it probably
>    will never be a Daytona or a 365 BB, and i
> certainly will never have
>    the panache of a Lusso or a 250GT PF cabriolet,
> but,
>    1) They are emminently drivable , usable and all
> most affordable.
>    There is no such thing as an inexpensive Ferrari,
> but then there is
>    nothing else quite like a Ferrari.
> 
>    If you pull into a service station in your 308,
> all any one around you
>    knows is that it IS A FERRARI.
>    If you go to the Cavallino or to a National
> Ferrari meet, then just
>    don't park it next to the 500 SuperFast #1 or a
> 275 GTB 4.
> 
>    From my experience, a well taken care of 308 will
> never dissapoint you
>    unless you have an inferiority complex.....and
> that ain't the cars
>    fault....you probably have problems with wimmin
> too.
> 
>    I truly hope that this current thread stays with
> us for a while.
>    I have a 308 GTSi for sale, you can read about it
> in the FML or you
>    can see it on my web site,
>    [1]www.philvilleUSA.com  it is an 81,000 mile
> euro car and I can give
>    you a dozen reasons not to buy it. How ever I can
> probably give you
>    twice that many reasons that you should consider
> it.
> 
>    REasons not to buy
>    1) It is a euro car  ( Probably better, faster
> and yes it has it's
>    papers)
>    2) It has had 4 owners  ( I have known each of
> them and to a man they
>    were all Ferrari enthusiasts who knew what they
> had.
>    3) I have inadequate service records and can not
> document the last
>    major service ( Do a major service or any part of
> one that you can do,
>    this car should really go to a hands on owner,
> how ever, I might add
>    that I have had the car examined by a local
> Ferrari guy who I value
>    and who has owned his own 308. He tells me the
> car is fine, he thinks
>    it runs great.
>    4) The tires are metric as are the wheels and the
> tires look like old
>    original tires ( The tires may well be original,
> the first owner
>    tracked the car frequently he is a Track Master
> and instructor and
>    still owns Ferraris the second owner liked the
> top end which he seemed
>    to find quite frequently they used a set of BBs
> wheels which the third
>    and fourth owners did not get, but those were
> more interested in the
>    car off track, and used the original wheels and
> tires....I would
>    estimate that 90% of all the miles were put on
> using the
>    BBs's........buy another set of wheels, there are
> more wheels avail.
>    for the 308 than any other Ferrari.
>    5)It is fitted with an Accu Sump    ( If you do
> not know the value of
>    a pressurised system that lubes your engine befor
> turning over, and
>    adds 4 qts. of oil to your sump, then maybe you
> are not really ready
>    for a Ferrari.
>    6)It has 51,000 miles ( That may be why it runs
> so well, and besides,
>    how many of those sub 20k mile cars out there are
> really sub 20k mile
>    cars?)
>    7) The AC makes luke warm air....( That may be
> because the last time
>    the system was charged was 1992,none of the
> owners gave a s*** about
>    cold air, and at best, they would make 65' air
> any way.
>    8) The windows are slow  ( Thats OK, the AC
> doesn't work......but they
>    can be fixed, at least they work)
>    9) The radio doesn't work  ( The antennae does
> not work, listen to the
>    exhaust, or, put another antenae on, they are
> better now anyway.)
>    10)It does not have ALL the tools,and books. (
> Well it does have most
>    of the tools, the tool roll, the jack and jack
> bag the owners manual
>    the pouch and a few other things.)
>    11)What if it needs a major service? ( It
> probably should have a major
>    service, but you certainly can not tell that from
> driving it, in fact,
>    I might even be talked into driving it to a
> delivery to the right
>    customer under the right circumstances.
>    12) I will probably have too much money invested
> in it.  ( That should
>    not come as a surprise, it is a Ferrari and you
> should expect that.
>    The best way to avoid that is by not buying any
> Ferrari.
> 
>    Seriously all of the above may well be normal
> issues, but this car is
>    a great car and to the right buyer it will be
> perfect. It runs at
>    least as well as any 308 that I have ever driven,
> it drives flatter (
>    and this is on old Mich X's). It looks great,
> runs great it just isn't
>    the perfect car that you wish you could buy....I
> have that also, but
>    at a much higher price. You will need to ask me
> about that one, but I
>    will tell you it is an 85 Red tan sub 20k miles
> extremely
>    documentable and needs nothing.
> 
>    Think about it, I would like to see it stay on
> list, and will make
>    certain concessions to another lister if they
> promise to keep me
>    posted about the car.
> 
>    If you think that this is all BS, ask Rick
>    I may not have told you, but the car belongs to
> the widow of one of my
>    customers, I really want to sell it for her, we
> are asking $29,800.00
>    I will take less ( esp from a lister) I have
> turned down 25k.
> 
>    And always remember, there are awhole load of
> people out there who
>    will never ever even be able to even think about
> owning a
>    Ferrari....at least we can give it serious
> thought. So enjoy your car
>    even if it is a s*** box.
> 
>    Thanks , Phil
> 
> 
>    Philip "Phil" Tegtmeier
>    39 Churchill Drive
>    Elverson Pa 19520
>    610.525.8949
>    And, go to: ... Philville [at] dejazzd.com
> 
> References
> 
>    1. http://www.philvilleusa.com/
> >
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