Ferrari Mailing List: Re: 308..Great thread

[Rick Lindsay (rolindsay]

That is a nice car Phil.  It needs only the kind of
attention I enjoy giving - but I already have a great
308 (and other toys).

rick

--- "philville dejazzd.com" <philville [at] dejazzd.com>
wrote:

> 
>    Great to see all the 308 enthusiasm, I knew that
> it was there, maybe
>    we are all starting to realise the value of these
> cars, no it probably
>    will never be a Daytona or a 365 BB, and i
> certainly will never have
>    the panache of a Lusso or a 250GT PF cabriolet,
> but,
>    1) They are emminently drivable , usable and all
> most affordable.
>    There is no such thing as an inexpensive Ferrari,
> but then there is
>    nothing else quite like a Ferrari.
> 
>    If you pull into a service station in your 308,
> all any one around you
>    knows is that it IS A FERRARI.
>    If you go to the Cavallino or to a National
> Ferrari meet, then just
>    don't park it next to the 500 SuperFast #1 or a
> 275 GTB 4.
> 
>    From my experience, a well taken care of 308 will
> never dissapoint you
>    unless you have an inferiority complex.....and
> that ain't the cars
>    fault....you probably have problems with wimmin
> too.
> 
>    I truly hope that this current thread stays with
> us for a while.
>    I have a 308 GTSi for sale, you can read about it
> in the FML or you
>    can see it on my web site,
>    [1]www.philvilleUSA.com  it is an 81,000 mile
> euro car and I can give
>    you a dozen reasons not to buy it. How ever I can
> probably give you
>    twice that many reasons that you should consider
> it.
> 
>    REasons not to buy
>    1) It is a euro car  ( Probably better, faster
> and yes it has it's
>    papers)
>    2) It has had 4 owners  ( I have known each of
> them and to a man they
>    were all Ferrari enthusiasts who knew what they
> had.
>    3) I have inadequate service records and can not
> document the last
>    major service ( Do a major service or any part of
> one that you can do,
>    this car should really go to a hands on owner,
> how ever, I might add
>    that I have had the car examined by a local
> Ferrari guy who I value
>    and who has owned his own 308. He tells me the
> car is fine, he thinks
>    it runs great.
>    4) The tires are metric as are the wheels and the
> tires look like old
>    original tires ( The tires may well be original,
> the first owner
>    tracked the car frequently he is a Track Master
> and instructor and
>    still owns Ferraris the second owner liked the
> top end which he seemed
>    to find quite frequently they used a set of BBs
> wheels which the third
>    and fourth owners did not get, but those were
> more interested in the
>    car off track, and used the original wheels and
> tires....I would
>    estimate that 90% of all the miles were put on
> using the
>    BBs's........buy another set of wheels, there are
> more wheels avail.
>    for the 308 than any other Ferrari.
>    5)It is fitted with an Accu Sump    ( If you do
> not know the value of
>    a pressurised system that lubes your engine befor
> turning over, and
>    adds 4 qts. of oil to your sump, then maybe you
> are not really ready
>    for a Ferrari.
>    6)It has 51,000 miles ( That may be why it runs
> so well, and besides,
>    how many of those sub 20k mile cars out there are
> really sub 20k mile
>    cars?)
>    7) The AC makes luke warm air....( That may be
> because the last time
>    the system was charged was 1992,none of the
> owners gave a s*** about
>    cold air, and at best, they would make 65' air
> any way.
>    8) The windows are slow  ( Thats OK, the AC
> doesn't work......but they
>    can be fixed, at least they work)
>    9) The radio doesn't work  ( The antennae does
> not work, listen to the
>    exhaust, or, put another antenae on, they are
> better now anyway.)
>    10)It does not have ALL the tools,and books. (
> Well it does have most
>    of the tools, the tool roll, the jack and jack
> bag the owners manual
>    the pouch and a few other things.)
>    11)What if it needs a major service? ( It
> probably should have a major
>    service, but you certainly can not tell that from
> driving it, in fact,
>    I might even be talked into driving it to a
> delivery to the right
>    customer under the right circumstances.
>    12) I will probably have too much money invested
> in it.  ( That should
>    not come as a surprise, it is a Ferrari and you
> should expect that.
>    The best way to avoid that is by not buying any
> Ferrari.
> 
>    Seriously all of the above may well be normal
> issues, but this car is
>    a great car and to the right buyer it will be
> perfect. It runs at
>    least as well as any 308 that I have ever driven,
> it drives flatter (
>    and this is on old Mich X's). It looks great,
> runs great it just isn't
>    the perfect car that you wish you could buy....I
> have that also, but
>    at a much higher price. You will need to ask me
> about that one, but I
>    will tell you it is an 85 Red tan sub 20k miles
> extremely
>    documentable and needs nothing.
> 
>    Think about it, I would like to see it stay on
> list, and will make
>    certain concessions to another lister if they
> promise to keep me
>    posted about the car.
> 
>    If you think that this is all BS, ask Rick
>    I may not have told you, but the car belongs to
> the widow of one of my
>    customers, I really want to sell it for her, we
> are asking $29,800.00
>    I will take less ( esp from a lister) I have
> turned down 25k.
> 
>    And always remember, there are awhole load of
> people out there who
>    will never ever even be able to even think about
> owning a
>    Ferrari....at least we can give it serious
> thought. So enjoy your car
>    even if it is a s*** box.
> 
>    Thanks , Phil
> 
> 
>    Philip "Phil" Tegtmeier
>    39 Churchill Drive
>    Elverson Pa 19520
>    610.525.8949
>    And, go to: ... Philville [at] dejazzd.com
> 
> References
> 
>    1. http://www.philvilleusa.com/
> >
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