Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Barrett-Jackson

[Erik Nielsen (judge4re]

Actually, most of the real choice stuff is being sold collector to collector
now.  Why pay the middle man if you don't have to.




On Jan 20, 2008 6:29 PM, LarryT <l02turner [at] comcast.net> wrote:

> I keep wondering what the commentators mean when they say a car was bought
> for less than the restoration cost.   I assume that means a car was bought
> for $80K and the resto cost was estimated to be $100k.  I would think a
> lot
> of restorers would be looking for other work if that's the case.
>
> Yeah, I think your comment about muscle car prices being lower than they
> used to be.   Some cars like Cuda's and GTOs that went quickly to over
> $100K
> seems to stall at $75k or $80k.  Then again, there must be a limit to how
> many muscle cars the public can absorb.
>
> Also, some restorers seem to be updating a lot of cars that didn;t start
> out
> that way - for instance, regular Mustang Coupes that are made to appear to
> be Boss 302s - not that they are being misrepresented, just that they're
> not
> the real deal.  If they have to do that does it mean all the good stuff is
> squirreled away in collections?  Maybe some potential buyers are staying
> home figuring all the "real" muscle cars are gone?
>
> One more observation and I'll go away - don't people usually go to
> auctions
> to try and get a deal?  Doesn't seem to be many deals at B-J.
>
> Have a nice, quiet, Sunday evening -
>
> Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Erik Nielsen" <judge4re [at] gmail.com>
> To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
> Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 6:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Barrett-Jackson
>
>
>  >I watched bits and pieces of it this week, not that I'm the expert on
> the
> > price pulse, but numbers seemed down.  Maybe the muscle car bubble is
> > starting to deflate...
> >
> > On Jan 20, 2008 5:11 PM, Ken Rentiers <rentiers [at] mac.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Well with the auctions at Monterey in August and Florida in the
> >> spring, someone wanting to consign their Ferrari may figure they will
> >> have more luck at a place where more tifosi are present. Scottsdale
> >> was all muscle cars this year. With the housing bust and the DOW on
> >> the skids can collector cars hold their value?
> >>
> >> ken
> >>
> >> On Jan 20, 2008, at 4:51 PM, LarryT wrote:
> >>
> >> > Good point.  All those "restorers" out there have to have a market
> >> > somewhere! ;-)
> >> >
> >> > Almost as soon as I worte my note I saw a Cobra by Superformance, a
> >> > RR and a
> >> > 89 Porsche Turbo.
> >> >
> >> > It might just be me, but seems like some of the foreign exotics have
> >> > some
> >> > warts.
> >> >
> >> > I would like to see a Lincoln Zepher - what beautiful lines.
> >> > ;-)
> >> >
> >> > Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "jim" <jimshadow [at] verizon.net>
> >> > To: "'LarryT'" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
> >> > Cc: "'The FerrariList'" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> >> > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 4:20 PM
> >> > Subject: RE: [Ferrari] Barrett-Jackson
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > BJ has to do this if they want to keep the Muscle Car market as
> >> > elevated as
> >> > possible.   It took them a long time to get it here, now they want
> >> > to keep
> >> > it here.   Makes them lots of $$.  Get that hype up ya'll.
> >> >
> >> > :)
> >> >
> >> > JIM
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: LarryT [mailto:l02turner [at] comcast.net]
> >> > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 4:14 PM
> >> > To: JIM
> >> > Cc: The FerrariList
> >> > Subject: [Ferrari] Barrett-Jackson
> >> >
> >> > Howdy  -
> >> >    Have been watching this years "event" and I guess this has been
> >> > getting
> >> > worse and worse as the years pass - fewer and fewer exotic cars are
> >> > crossing
> >> >
> >> > the block.  I haven't watched every minute but what I've seen has
> >> > been GTOs
> >> > (the Pontiac kind), Mustangs and Corvettes with the most exotic car
> >> > being
> >> > the "Beverly Hillbillies Mobile".
> >> >
> >> >    I wonder is this has been a conscious move or maybe Ferrari,
> >> > Maserati,
> >> > Alfa and Porsche, etc owners have stayed away on purpose?
> >> >
> >> >    Hope everyone is having a nice weekend -
> >> >
> >> > Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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