Ferrari Mailing List: Re: what is this?

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I once saw a large BM that someone forgot to flush.
Scottie

On Jul 9, 2008, at 11:36 AM, clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net wrote:
I once saw 2 B1 bombers low leveling in OK while we were on  
motorcycles heading west

Its so flat out there we kept them in sight for miles
Clyde
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Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 11:21:41
To: clyde<clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net>
Cc: <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] what is this?

One hot summer afternoon, while der Frau and I were lounging by the  
pool, we saw a B-2 Stelth Bomber fly over our humble adobe in the  
foothills of Tucson, making an approach to DMAFB. I thought that  
either she had spiked my frosty salty dog, or  I was at a Greatful  
Dead concert. Janis, Jimi ... where are you?

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From: Dan
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] what is this?

I once saw the B-52's.....................
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In Tuscon, I've seen the A-20, B-24, B-25, B-17, B-29, B-36, and  
the B-52. > I can't remember if the B-26 is there too.
Yer pal, Bubba

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From: Doug
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] what is this?

Clyde the F101 may also me a widow maker - but Wikipedia sez

.. The Luftwaffe nickname (in German) for the F-104 Starfighter  
warplane.

OUG

lso, and this is new to me, the B26 medium bomber.
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Widow Maker was the F101 Voodoo
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 19:09:07
To: clyde<clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net>
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Subject: Re: [Ferrari] what is this?

Ahh, that's what I recall. If I remember correctly, this thing  
ejected

pilots downward - or am I confusing it with something else?

DOUG

Yeah, F104 - the widow maker. Some one quipped if you want an F104,  
buy

an

acre of land in Germany. Guess these were NATO fighters.
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On a flight for GE to get promo pics, an F104 got too close to a  
wing on

the XB and the vortex sucked it over.

The F104 did an inverted roll over top of both rear stabilizers and

vaporized (due to JP4 fuel instability?). The 104 pilot, Joe  
Walker was

killed instantly...too bad. He was an experienced pilot.

The XB continued to fly flat for 16 secs and then started a spin  
until it

crashed. One pilot got killed, the other ejected out.

That's all I can remember...maybe someone can look up the details.

LS

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Didb the XB have a mid air or something on a test flt?
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 20:18:13
To: clyde<clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net>
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Subject: Re: [Ferrari] what is this?

Yeah, it was terrible...Jo Walker and the XB perished for no  
reason...

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Subject: Re: [Ferrari] what is this?
I saw it being built. I stand on my deck in Inglewood and watch  
the Forum

being built and way over there was a "North American - Home of the

Valkyrie"

25 foot high red neon letter secretly proclaimed. Too bad about  
the photo

op that went poo poo clunk. Took out the B70 and another plane.

DOUG

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The specs and photos of the Talon remind me of the old XB-70 from  
the

60's...remember that thing? I don't since I wasn't born, but it  
seemed

as

if it was an interesting vehicle.

I'd like to check it out at Wright Pat one of these days.

LS

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Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 9:21:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] what is this?
FA-37 New Stealth Fighter Air Craft Jet
August 19, 2007 | Author: Rich | 21,066Views | | Print
Filed under: 800HighTech, Internet, Military News, Random
FA-37 Talon Military Aircraft Stealth Jet Secret Weapons
Making the rounds to an Email box near you! I just got it and found

out that this has been circulating for some time. Below are

photographs of a prototype aircraft known as the Talon.  
Reportedly it

was taken onboard the USS George Washington CVN-73 for catapult fit

checks. It noted that it was not exactly still Top Secret but

certainly not yet made public.
The specs that were known were list to be a Mach 3.5 (top speed  
in the

Mach 4 range), super-cruise stealth fighter / bomber / interceptor

with approximately a 4,000nm range.

:: :: :: :: :: :: :: ::

At first I fell for it too, but after checking around this wasn’t  
the

case. I seldom believe anything on the internet for face value and

have to do a lot of checking around to verify facts and then draw  
my

own conclusion. Blogs are unfortunately known to be operated by  
nuts

(maybe me too!).
These photographs are not images of a prototype F/A-37 “Talon”

aircraft being tested aboard the aircraft carrier USS George

Washington, but pictures taken from the filming of the motion  
picture

Stealth (which wasn’t that good and had numerous incorrect  
features).
Although these pictures come from a fictional movie, they were  
taken

aboard a real U.S. aircraft carrier, the USS Abraham Lincoln, which

was used for filming while the vessel was at San Diego’s Naval Air

Station North Island in June 2004.
USS Abraham Public Affairs Press Release

Fighter jets chocked and chained to the deck, Sailors scurrying  
from

place to place, the occasional whirr of rising aircraft elevators,

this could be a hangar bay of any aircraft carrier. In fact, the

repetitious scene often causes shipmates to become oblivious to  
their

overwhelming surroundings.
But last week something happened aboard USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN  
72)

that made every Sailor stand up and take notice throughout the  
ship.
Departing Naval Air Station North Island after an all too brief  
stop-

over, Lincoln welcomed aboard more than 80 new faces, a 53-foot  
long

futuristic stealth fighter named “Talon,” and the Navy’s top three

“special operations pilots.”
No, this was not a top-secret Navy experiment; rather it was the  
cast

and crew of the upcoming major motion picture, “Stealth.” The new

addition to Abe’s crew came aboard courtesy of Columbia Pictures  
and

Backbreaker Films, and features Josh Lucas, Jessica Biel, Jamie  
Foxx

and Pulitzer Prize-winner Sam Shepard.

The film is scheduled to be released in the summer of 2005, and is

directed by Rob Cohen, who also directed the films “XXX,” and “The

Fast and The Furious.” He said “Stealth” is on a different level  
than

his past work.
“Filming a major Hollywood movie during flight (operations) is a  
very

tricky and different thing,” said Cohen. “This is real life out  
here,

and it’s amazing that the Navy is allowing us to be here and  
bring our

own aircraft on the ship.”
Cohen also acknowledged the Navy for allowing the current movie  
to see

the light of day. “I’m very grateful to the Navy for this. The Navy

passed every page of the script, so they feel good about it, and I

feel good about what this film will say about the Navy.”
In the film, Navy officials decide to use an unmanned version of  
the

“Talon,” but when one of the planes begins attacking friendly  
forces,

Navy pilots are called in to save the planet from artificial

intelligence.
Although the plot may sound far-fetched to some, Cohen found out  
first

hand that filming aboard Lincoln is very real.
“I have a deeper appreciation for what (the crew) does on the

Lincoln,” Cohen said. After spending his first night aboard the

warship, Cohen had a startling experience that awoke him from a  
sound

sleep. “They primed the catapults about 2:00 in the morning, and I

thought, ‘Oh my God, we’ve been torpedoed!’ I jumped so high out  
of my

bunk that I hit my head on the shelf.”
Adjusting to life on the 97,000-ton carrier also proved to be
difficult for some of the cast.
“I’ve been lost every day,” actress Jessica Biel said. “I still  
can’t

get to my room. I have to ask people all of the time just to help  
me

find the bathroom, but it’s been incredible how helpful everyone  
has

been.”
Biel, who plays Lt. Kara Wade, the only female pilot in the stealth

squadron, also expressed her appreciation for the hard work of  
Abe’s

crew. “You really have no idea how hard everybody works until you  
come

on to a carrier,” Biel said. “The teamwork on this ship is  
absolutely

amazing.”
Teamwork seemed to be the word of the week, as both the movie and

ship’s crews worked together to complete the ship’s mission and  
lend a

hand in the production.
Abe Sailors were given numerous opportunities throughout the week  
to

be extras in the film, and share the spotlight with the Hollywood

lineup. Donning float coats and cranials, the Sailors, producers  
and

actors looked alike on the flight deck as the cameras rolled.
“In my 16 years in the Navy, this is one of the top things I’ve  
done,”

said AO1(AW) Anthony Whetstone, of Abe’s Safety Department.
Whetstone, an Alexander City, Ala. native, was an extra with a
speaking role during one of the production’s night scenes, and was
grateful to have such an opportunity. “Nothing like this has ever
happened to me before.”
Actor Jamie Foxx, who plays the role of Lt. Henry Purcell, said  
Abe’s

crew was a big help during the filming and commented on their hard

work. “This really changes your perspective on things, when you  
get a

chance to see from the ground up how hard these men and women  
work,”

he said.
“The crew was really down to Earth,” Whetstone said.
“I was surprised to find out that they were just like us.”  
Whetstone’s

thoughts seemed to be echoed by Abe’s crew throughout the week.

Meanwhile, the film crew couldn’t seem to give enough praise to

Lincoln Sailors.
“Thank God for these decent people that are on this ship doing  
the job

they do,” Cohen said. “I have a deep appreciation for Sailors and  
what

(they) do for people like me who live in the freedom you secure.”

Scottie
On Jul 7, 2008, at 6:50 AM, Ken Rentiers wrote:
Clyde:
WTF is this???
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From: Ferrarisimo [at] Comcast.net (Ferrarisimocomcast.net)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 09:24:49 -0700 (PDT)