Re: what is this?
From: Tom Reynolds (kjtarcox.net)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 19:52:48 -0700 (PDT)
Or the B26 in WWII
Tom in Tulsa

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From: <clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net>
To: "Tom Reynolds" <kjtar [at] cox.net>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 5:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] what is this?


> Widow Maker was the F101 Voodoo
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Doug and Terri Anderson" <dnt [at] dock.net>
>
> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 19:09:07
> To: clyde<clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net>
> Cc: The FerrariList<ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] what is this?
>
>
> Ahh, that's what I recall.  If I remember correctly, this thing ejected
> pilots downward - or am I confusing it with something else?
> DOUG
> Yeah, F104 - the widow maker.  Some one quipped if you want an F104, buy
an
> acre of land in Germany.  Guess these were NATO fighters.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "LS" <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
> To: "DOUG" <dnt [at] dock.net>
> Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 6:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] what is this?
>
>
> > On a flight for GE to get promo pics, an F104 got too close to a wing on
> > the XB and the vortex sucked it over.
> > The F104 did an inverted roll over top of both rear stabilizers and
> > vaporized (due to JP4 fuel instability?). The 104 pilot, Joe Walker was
> > killed instantly...too bad. He was an experienced pilot.
> > The XB continued to fly flat for 16 secs and then started a spin until
it
> > crashed. One pilot got killed, the other ejected out.
> > That's all I can remember...maybe someone can look up the details.
> > LS
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: "clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net" <clyderomero [at] 
> > worldnet.att.net>
> > To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
> > Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2008 6:37:07 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] what is this?
> >
> > Didb the XB have a mid air or something on a test flt?
> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
> >
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 20:18:13
> > To: clyde<clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net>
> > Cc: The FerrariList<ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] what is this?
> >
> >
> > Yeah, it was terrible...Jo Walker and the XB perished for no reason...
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Doug and Terri Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net>
> > To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
> > Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> > Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 11:12:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] what is this?
> >
> > I saw it being built. I stand on my deck in Inglewood and watch the
Forum
> > being built and way over there was a "North American - Home of the
> > Valkyrie"
> > 25 foot high red neon letter secretly proclaimed. Too bad about the
photo
> > op that went poo poo clunk. Took out the B70 and another plane.
> > DOUG
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "LS" <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
> > To: "DOUG" <dnt [at] dock.net>
> > Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 8:59 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] what is this?
> >
> >
> >> The specs and photos of the Talon remind me of the old XB-70 from the
> >> 60's...remember that thing? I don't since I wasn't born, but it seemed
as
> >> if it was an interesting vehicle.
> >> I'd like to check it out at Wright Pat one of these days.
> >> LS
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----
> >> From: "Ferrarisimo [at] Comcast.net" <Ferrarisimo [at] comcast.net>
> >> To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
> >> Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> >> Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 9:21:12 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] what is this?
> >>
> >> FA-37 New Stealth Fighter Air Craft Jet
> >> August 19, 2007 | Author: Rich | 21,066Views | | Print
> >> Filed under: 800HighTech, Internet, Military News, Random
> >>
> >> FA-37 Talon Military Aircraft Stealth Jet Secret Weapons
> >>
> >> Making the rounds to an Email box near you! I just got it and found
> >> out that this has been circulating for some time. Below are
> >> photographs of a prototype aircraft known as the Talon. Reportedly it
> >> was taken onboard the USS George Washington CVN-73 for catapult fit
> >> checks. It noted that it was not exactly still Top Secret but
> >> certainly not yet made public.
> >>
> >> The specs that were known were list to be a Mach 3.5 (top speed in the
> >> Mach 4 range), super-cruise stealth fighter / bomber / interceptor
> >> with approximately a 4,000nm range.
> >>
> >>
> >> :: :: :: :: :: :: :: ::
> >>
> >>
> >> At first I fell for it too, but after checking around this wasnât the
> >> case. I seldom believe anything on the internet for face value and
> >> have to do a lot of checking around to verify facts and then draw my
> >> own conclusion. Blogs are unfortunately known to be operated by nuts
> >> (maybe me too!).
> >>
> >> These photographs are not images of a prototype F/A-37 âTalonâ
> >> aircraft being tested aboard the aircraft carrier USS George
> >> Washington, but pictures taken from the filming of the motion picture
> >> Stealth (which wasnât that good and had numerous incorrect features).
> >>
> >> Although these pictures come from a fictional movie, they were taken
> >> aboard a real U.S. aircraft carrier, the USS Abraham Lincoln, which
> >> was used for filming while the vessel was at San Diegoâs Naval Air
> >> Station North Island in June 2004.
> >>
> >> USS Abraham Public Affairs Press Release
> >> Fighter jets chocked and chained to the deck, Sailors scurrying from
> >> place to place, the occasional whirr of rising aircraft elevators,
> >> this could be a hangar bay of any aircraft carrier. In fact, the
> >> repetitious scene often causes shipmates to become oblivious to their
> >> overwhelming surroundings.
> >>
> >> But last week something happened aboard USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72)
> >> that made every Sailor stand up and take notice throughout the ship.
> >>
> >> Departing Naval Air Station North Island after an all too brief stop-
> >> over, Lincoln welcomed aboard more than 80 new faces, a 53-foot long
> >> futuristic stealth fighter named âTalon,â and the Navyâs top three
> >> âspecial operations pilots.â
> >>
> >> No, this was not a top-secret Navy experiment; rather it was the cast
> >> and crew of the upcoming major motion picture, âStealth.â The new
> >> addition to Abeâs crew came aboard courtesy of Columbia Pictures and
> >> Backbreaker Films, and features Josh Lucas, Jessica Biel, Jamie Foxx
> >> and Pulitzer Prize-winner Sam Shepard.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The film is scheduled to be released in the summer of 2005, and is
> >> directed by Rob Cohen, who also directed the films âXXX,â and âThe
> >> Fast and The Furious.â He said âStealthâ is on a different level than
> >> his past work.
> >>
> >> âFilming a major Hollywood movie during flight (operations) is a very
> >> tricky and different thing,â said Cohen. âThis is real life out here,
> >> and itâs amazing that the Navy is allowing us to be here and bring our
> >> own aircraft on the ship.â
> >>
> >> Cohen also acknowledged the Navy for allowing the current movie to see
> >> the light of day. âIâm very grateful to the Navy for this. The Navy
> >> passed every page of the script, so they feel good about it, and I
> >> feel good about what this film will say about the Navy.â
> >>
> >> In the film, Navy officials decide to use an unmanned version of the
> >> âTalon,â but when one of the planes begins attacking friendly forces,
> >> Navy pilots are called in to save the planet from artificial
> >> intelligence.
> >>
> >> Although the plot may sound far-fetched to some, Cohen found out first
> >> hand that filming aboard Lincoln is very real.
> >>
> >> âI have a deeper appreciation for what (the crew) does on the
> >> Lincoln,â Cohen said. After spending his first night aboard the
> >> warship, Cohen had a startling experience that awoke him from a sound
> >> sleep. âThey primed the catapults about 2:00 in the morning, and I
> >> thought, âOh my God, weâve been torpedoed!â I jumped so high out of 
> >> my
> >> bunk that I hit my head on the shelf.â
> >>
> >> Adjusting to life on the 97,000-ton carrier also proved to be
> >> difficult for some of the cast.
> >>
> >> âIâve been lost every day,â actress Jessica Biel said. âI still 
> >> canât
> >> get to my room. I have to ask people all of the time just to help me
> >> find the bathroom, but itâs been incredible how helpful everyone has
> >> been.â
> >>
> >> Biel, who plays Lt. Kara Wade, the only female pilot in the stealth
> >> squadron, also expressed her appreciation for the hard work of Abeâs
> >> crew. âYou really have no idea how hard everybody works until you come
> >> on to a carrier,â Biel said. âThe teamwork on this ship is absolutely
> >> amazing.â
> >>
> >> Teamwork seemed to be the word of the week, as both the movie and
> >> shipâs crews worked together to complete the shipâs mission and lend a
> >> hand in the production.
> >>
> >> Abe Sailors were given numerous opportunities throughout the week to
> >> be extras in the film, and share the spotlight with the Hollywood
> >> lineup. Donning float coats and cranials, the Sailors, producers and
> >> actors looked alike on the flight deck as the cameras rolled.
> >>
> >> âIn my 16 years in the Navy, this is one of the top things Iâve 
> >> done,â
> >> said AO1(AW) Anthony Whetstone, of Abeâs Safety Department.
> >>
> >> Whetstone, an Alexander City, Ala. native, was an extra with a
> >> speaking role during one of the productionâs night scenes, and was
> >> grateful to have such an opportunity. âNothing like this has ever
> >> happened to me before.â
> >>
> >> Actor Jamie Foxx, who plays the role of Lt. Henry Purcell, said Abeâs
> >> crew was a big help during the filming and commented on their hard
> >> work. âThis really changes your perspective on things, when you get a
> >> chance to see from the ground up how hard these men and women work,â
> >> he said.
> >>
> >> âThe crew was really down to Earth,â Whetstone said.
> >>
> >> âI was surprised to find out that they were just like us.â 
> >> Whetstoneâs
> >> thoughts seemed to be echoed by Abeâs crew throughout the week.
> >> Meanwhile, the film crew couldnât seem to give enough praise to
> >> Lincoln Sailors.
> >>
> >> âThank God for these decent people that are on this ship doing the job
> >> they do,â Cohen said. âI have a deep appreciation for Sailors and what
> >> (they) do for people like me who live in the freedom you secure.â
> >>
> >>
> >> Scottie
> >>
> >> On Jul 7, 2008, at 6:50 AM, Ken Rentiers wrote:
> >>
> >>> Clyde:
> >>>
> >>> WTF is this???
> >>>
> >>> <NewNavyplane.jpg>
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