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From: ItsmeMrWright (ItsmeMrWright aol.com)
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| Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:53:20 -0700 (PDT) | |
I don't think we can ever get a real number since the deaths occur
over such a long period of time, depending on the severity of the
radiation and the relative health of the immune system of the infected
person. Not to mention, the source of that was Greenpeace.
"My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the
world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it."
Barack Obama
In a message dated 8/12/2008 7:36:59 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
rentiers [at] mac.com writes:
Apparently the body count is somewhere between 31 and a million
according to unreliable sources...
The Chernobyl Body Count Controversy
By Charles Hawley and Stefan Schmitt
Greenpeace on Tuesday released a report claiming the death toll
from
Chernobyl is many times higher than a 2005 UN estimate. But is the
report based on "bad science" as critics claim?
Just how many people may ultimately die as a result of the
Chernobyl
nuclear disaster two decades ago has long been one of the largest
questions raised by the meltdown. Almost every year, a new study
comes out on or near the catastrophe's late April anniversary with
yet another estimate.
This year, it was the turn of Greenpeace, which on Tuesday released
a
controversial new report (pdf) that argues that the number of
Chernobyl dead may be much higher than the 4,000 estimated in a
2005
report (pdf) issued by the United Nations group Chernobyl Forum.
As
many as 90,000 victims may eventually succumb to radiation-related
illnesses, the Greenpeace report says.
Chernobyl death count still disputed
25/04/2001 10:13 - (SA) Kiev - The fallout from the 1986
Chernobyl
blast contaminated three-quarters of Europe, irradiating millions
of
people in far-flung corners of the continent, yet the precise toll
of
the disaster remains hotly disputed 15 years on.
Up to 30 000 people have died as a result of the explosion on
April
26, 1986, of Chernobyl's reactor number four, which spewed
radiation
into the atmosphere equivalent to 500 times that of the atomic
bomb
dropped on Hiroshima in 1945.
But official estimates from the Soviet era put the death toll at
only
31, of which 29 are said to have died of radiation sickness, while
the pro-nuclear lobby has deliberately clouded the issue in a bid
to
protect the image of atomic power.
The margin of error, or dispute, is wide and has become a
political
battleground.
Stark evidence from Ukraine's hospitals and clinics points towards
the upper end of the tally, with three million citizens, a third
of
them children, diagnosed with ailments linked to radiation.
Twenty Years After Chernobyl
Thursday, April 13, 2006
By Steven MilloyApril 26 marks the 20th anniversary of the
accident
at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant. Anti-nuclear activists are
still trying to turn Chernobyl into a bigger disaster than it
really
was.
Although the Number Four nuclear reactor at Chernobyl exploded
just
before dawn on April 26, 1986, Soviet secrecy prevented the world
from learning about the accident for days. Once details began to
emerge, however, the anti-nuclear scare machine swung into action.
Three days after the accident Greenpeace "scientists" predicted
the
accident would cause 10,000 people to get cancer over a 20-year
period within a 625-mile radius of the plant. Greenpeace also
estimated that 2,000 to 4,000 people in Sweden would develop
cancer
over a 30-year period from the radioactive fallout.
At the same time, Helen Caldicott, president emeritus of the anti-
nuclear Physicians for Social Responsibility, predicted the
accident
would cause almost 300,000 cancers in 5 to 50 years and cause
almost
1 million people either to be rendered sterile or mentally
retarded,
or to develop radiation sickness, menstrual problems and other
health
problems.
University of California-Berkeley medical physicist and nuclear
power
critic Dr. John Gofman made the most dire forecast. He predicted
at
an American Chemical Society meeting that the Chernobyl accident
would cause 1 million cancers worldwide, half of them fatal.But
the
reality of the health consequences of the Chernobyl accident seems
to
be quite different than predicted by the anti-nuke crowd.
As of mid-2005, fewer than 50 deaths were attributed to radiation
from the accident - that's according to a report, entitled
"Chernobyl's Legacy: Health Environmental and Socio-Economic
Impacts," produced by an international team of 100 scientists
working
under the auspices of the United Nations. Almost all of those 50
deaths were rescue workers who were highly exposed to radiation
and
died within months of the accident.
So far, there have been about 4,000 cases of thyroid cancer,
mainly
in children. But except for nine deaths, all of those with thyroid
cancer have recovered, according to the report.
Despite the UN report, the anti-nuclear mob hasn't given up on
Chernobyl scaremongering.
According to a March 25 report in The Guardian (UK), Greenpeace
and
others are set to issue a report around the 20th anniversary of
the
accident claiming that at least 500,000 people may have already
died
as a result of the accident.
Ukraine's government appears to be on board with the casualty
inflation game, perhaps looking for more international aid for the
economically-struggling former Soviet republic.
The Guardian article quoted the deputy head of the Ukraine
National
Commission for Radiation Protection as touting the 500,000-deaths
figure. A spokesman for the Ukraine government's Scientific Center
for Radiation Medicine told The Guardian, "We're overwhelmed by
thyroid cancers, leukemias and genetic mutations that are not
recorded in the [UN] data and which were practically unknown 20
years
ago."
Putting aside the anti-nuclear movement's track record of making
wild
claims and predictions in order advance its political agenda, I
put
more credence in the UN's estimates because it squares with what
we
know about real-life exposures to high levels of radiation.
Among the more than 86,000 survivors of the atomic bomb blasts
that
ended World War II, for example, "only" about 500 or so "extra"
cancers have occurred since 1950. Exposure to high-levels of
radiation does increase cancer risk, but only slightly.
There is no doubt that Chernobyl was a disaster, but it was not
one
of mythical proportions.
Chernobyl and Three Mile Island - the U.S. nuclear plant that
accidentally released a small amount radiation in 1979 - are
examples
of how the anti-nuclear lobby takes every available opportunity to
scare the public about nuclear power.
But no one was harmed by the incident at Three Mile Island. The
Chernobyl accident can be chalked up to deficiencies in its Soviet-
era design and operation. Neither reflect poorly on the track
record
of safety demonstrated by nuclear power plants designed, built and
operated in countries like the U.S., U.K., France and Japan.
It's quite ironic that while Greenpeace squawks about the need to
reduce emissions of greenhouse gases in order to avert the much-
dreaded global warming, the group continues spreading fear about
greenhouse gas-free nuclear power plants - the only practical
alternative to burning fossil fuels for producing electricity.
Apparently, Greenpeace's solution to our energy problems is simply
to
turn the lights off - for good.
On Aug 12, 2008, at 9:08 AM, red5hilser [at] aol.com wrote:
> I've seen a couple of documentary shows on both National
Geographic
> and History International Channels that showed hospital wards
> filled with the poor firemen and soldiers dying of radiation
> sickness. They were the ones that had to clear the debris from
the
> reactor roof. Most had little or no protection while they
worked.
> Hundreds died within a few short weeks in agony. And that was
only
> the roof workers.
>
> !00,000 dead isn't that many peple. Hell, I've been to many Rose
> Bowl football games that more people attended than that. And
that's
> only one stadium. How many people died in the Christmas tsunami?
>
> Yer pal, Bubba
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LarryT
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Nuclear
>
>
>
> Hi Doug,
> You wrote about Elena saying <<Elena describes 100,000s who
> perished via the
> Chernobyl >>
>
> Thought someone on this list said 63 were killed at Chrenobyl?
My
> memory
> isn't flawless but prety sure it was around 100 or less
>
> Anyone else remember that??
>
> 100,000's is a large number!
>
> Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D)
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>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Doug and Terri Anderson" <dnt [at] dock.net>
> To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
> Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 10:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Nuclear
>
>
>> I strongly urge everyone to visit Chernobyl and Pripiat (where
the
>> reactor
>> was - 10 miles north of Chernobyl) via Elena's web site as she
motors
>> through on her as she describes it a "Kawasaki big ninja,
>> ZZR-1100 (ZX-11)
>> [which] is also known as "big Zed" or "eleven."
>>
>> http://www.kiddofspeed.com/garage1.html
>>
>> For the record - Ted Kennedy still holds the death record - -
more
>> people
>> have died riding home from a party with him than have died as a
>> result of
>> a US nuclear accident.
>>
>> Elena describes 100,000s who perished via the Chernobyl
incident.
>> She
>> carries a Geiger counter and will have to pass though various
>> check points
>> going in and coming out of the "Dead Zone."
>>
>> She has a nice easy writing style and tons of easy loadable
>> pictures split
>> into chapters - and riding this bike - will give clYdE a run for
his
>> money. As she discusses the disaster - "Radiation will stay in
the
>> Chernobyl area for the next 48.000 years, but humans may begin
>> repopulating the area in about 600 years - give or take three
>> centuries."
>>
>> Onward
>> DOUG
>>
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