Ferrari Mailing List: Re: w: EFI & Ethanol

[LarryT (l02turner]

Hi Doug,
   Sounds like you're saying a lot of engines are going to start running 
funny?  or stop running altogether?
;-)

Take Care,
Larry T
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug and Terri Anderson" <dnt [at] dock.net>
To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] w: EFI & Ethanol


> here here - pure alcohol is pretty nasty stuff.  When we used alcohol for
> Kart racing, after a days running, we would empty the tanks and swig out
> they system with gasoline - run the motors until they quit - that is until
> they got a slug of pure petrol.  Otherwise we would face a corrosive 
> nature
> of alcohol.
> DOUG
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com>
> To: "DOUG" <dnt [at] dock.net>
> Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 1:28 PM
> Subject: [Ferrari] w: EFI & Ethanol
>
>
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rolindsay [at] yahoo.com
> >
> > Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 20:27:34
> > To: LarryT<l02turner [at] comcast.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] EFI & Ethanol
> >
> >
> > Only concern I can imagine is that the correct air:fuel ratio for ethanol
> > is about 6:1 rather than 14.7:1 as with petrol. Fuel metering would have
> > to be completely remapped. Modern fuel hoses should be fine.
> >
> > Rick
> > ------Original Message------
> > From: LarryT
> > To: rolindsay
> > Cc: The FerrariList
> > Sent: Sep 27, 2008 3:04 PM
> > Subject: [Ferrari] EFI & Ethanol
> >
> >    Anyone aware of any studies looking into any problems that may be
> > caused by using Ethanol in EFI equipped engines?
> >
> >    Not govt. propaganda - real world info,
> >
> >    Have been reading some forums - small engines mostly - like outboards
> > and lawn mowers who are having problems directly related to higher 
> > Ethanol
> > content.
> >
> >    They say part of it is due to the way small engines are used Vs larger
> > car engines.  Since small engine sit for longer before burning their 
> > fuel.
> > The ethanol is said to break down, lose octane numbers and begine to
> > absorb moisture more quickly.  Evidently there is a lawsuit of various
> > Outboard Engine Manufacturers Vs the Govt who mandated the use of 
> > Ethanol.
> > Seems they claim a high amount of repairs being  caused by Ethanol -
> > especially warranty work which is borne by the manufacturers.  No one is
> > looking out for the little guy constantly having his OB or mower repaired
> > at hios own cost.
> >
> >    Actually, my Toro had a problem with the needle valve seat which 
> > failed
> > to seal -  the shop that sold me the parts blamed ethanol saying they 
> > were
> > seeing dozens of them a month lately.   Were so backed up they could get
> > to me for 2 weeks.  Fixed it myself -
> >
> > I'm still searching the net for info but would be interested in any info.
> > you are aware of -- 
> >
> > Thx -
> >
> > Take Care,
> > Larry T
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