Ferrari Mailing List: Re: w: EFI & Ethanol

[Doug and Terri Anderson (dnt]

Ahhhh, yesh - methanol.  That's the stuff we used.  We also use real castor 
bean oil.  Gotta luv that smell.  heh heh
Thanks Martin
DOUG

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Martin Stark 
  To: Doug and Terri Anderson 
  Cc: The FerrariList 
  Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 5:46 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ferrari] w: EFI & Ethanol


  It's methanol that's corrosive, ethanol is not, but ethanol does absorb water.

  Doug and Terri Anderson wrote:

here here - pure alcohol is pretty nasty stuff.  When we used alcohol for 
Kart racing, after a days running, we would empty the tanks and swig out 
they system with gasoline - run the motors until they quit - that is until 
they got a slug of pure petrol.  Otherwise we would face a corrosive nature 
of alcohol.
DOUG

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To: "DOUG" <dnt [at] dock.net>
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Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 1:28 PM
Subject: [Ferrari] w: EFI & Ethanol


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-----Original Message-----
From: rolindsay [at] yahoo.com

Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 20:27:34
To: LarryT<l02turner [at] comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] EFI & Ethanol


Only concern I can imagine is that the correct air:fuel ratio for ethanol 
is about 6:1 rather than 14.7:1 as with petrol. Fuel metering would have 
to be completely remapped. Modern fuel hoses should be fine.

Rick
------Original Message------
From: LarryT
To: rolindsay
Cc: The FerrariList
Sent: Sep 27, 2008 3:04 PM
Subject: [Ferrari] EFI & Ethanol

   Anyone aware of any studies looking into any problems that may be 
caused by using Ethanol in EFI equipped engines?

   Not govt. propaganda - real world info,

   Have been reading some forums - small engines mostly - like outboards 
and lawn mowers who are having problems directly related to higher Ethanol 
content.

   They say part of it is due to the way small engines are used Vs larger 
car engines.  Since small engine sit for longer before burning their fuel. 
The ethanol is said to break down, lose octane numbers and begine to 
absorb moisture more quickly.  Evidently there is a lawsuit of various 
Outboard Engine Manufacturers Vs the Govt who mandated the use of Ethanol. 
Seems they claim a high amount of repairs being  caused by Ethanol - 
especially warranty work which is borne by the manufacturers.  No one is 
looking out for the little guy constantly having his OB or mower repaired 
at hios own cost.

   Actually, my Toro had a problem with the needle valve seat which failed 
to seal -  the shop that sold me the parts blamed ethanol saying they were 
seeing dozens of them a month lately.   Were so backed up they could get 
to me for 2 weeks.  Fixed it myself -

I'm still searching the net for info but would be interested in any info. 
you are aware of -- 

Thx -

Take Care,
Larry T
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