Re: Winterproof ferrari's
From: LarryT (l02turnercomcast.net)
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 12:52:56 -0800 (PST)
I sell a product I believe is modelled on a Brit product called WaxOyl. It comes with a 3 or 4' length of tubing that is inserted into a hole drilled into the rocker, chassis or other hidden area - it is promoted as being for areas that are not accessible once the car is assembled. A similar product is sold by Moss Motors - a vendor for all kind of Britiish sportscars. It is sprayed as a liquid and turns to a waxy coating as it dries.

IMHO, - miracle products not with-standing - if metal is exposed to a soup of chemicals and salt it will rust - unless it's aluminum in which case it will do other nasty things ;-) unless it's rinsed with water pretty soon after exposure.

But I'm not saying my product (or the others) won't prevent rust - they will provide some level of protection - but they need help if they are to stop rust completely.

If you garage is heated the undercarriage should be power sprayed to get the chemicals off before it's put to bed. The reason for this is the great chinks of ice that are full of chemicals will stay frozen if left outdoors - but if brought inside where it can thaw the ice/snow blocks and the chemicals in them will thaw and run everywhere gravity will take it - leaving a trail of nastiness everywhere it

YMMV  ;-)

Sincerely,
Larry T  (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T)
www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits &
Porsche Posters/Weber parts
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----- Original Message ----- From: "E M" <pokiebaron [at] gmail.com>
To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Winterproof ferrari's


There are lots of things to help slow rust, but if you subject metal to
water and salt, it will happen. New Ferrari's have lots of aluminum, but it
too can oxidize.  The Brits use a thing called Waxoil, which they spray
everywhere and spread on their toast too. I think Mercedes use a wax based
coating too in places like the engine bays.  Maybe they sell it at the
dealer.

I didn't see the episode you're talking about, but for it to be effective,
it's probably done while the car is all apart and being restored. Probably
wouldn't want to subject such a car to winter $$$.

If you drive it in the winter, maybe use a power washer, let not too high,
and hit the wheel wells weekly or so. Watch the electrical connections when
using water under pressure.  Also, make sure all the drain holes in the
doors etc, are clear of mud, dust and leaves, so water can drain.  Often
they clog oer time, even if the car was kept clean. Water will run down the
inside of the doors and things, and pool.  By the the time you notice the
bubbles on the outside in the paint, it's only the tin worms holding hands
that's keeping the doors from falling off. :-)

Maybe pick up a couple of British car mags, see what products are offered
besides Waxoil.  They seem to drive everything year round over there, so
they might offer more tips.

Oh, I don't drive my old 911 in the winter, but ever few years, I do take
all the relays, fuses, electrical connections off, and coat them with
dielectric grease.  Salt and water love such places and tracing electrical
problems can be a pain. Don't forget to clean the grounds too, and a dap of
the old dielectric grease on it too. I've never had a single electrical
problem on my car, and it's almost 30 years old!!

Good luck, winter in a Ferrari sounds like great fun!!! :-)

Ed
911SC

2008/11/9 Rodney Ramos <ltwacko [at] aol.com>

How do you rust proof? Anyone use the system recently featured in Dream Car Garage on a GN? I guess I should have been clearer. I'll drive anything in
winter especially w/snow tires but repairing rust is a pain.

Rodney
------Original Message------
From: Steve Jenkins
To: ltwacko [at] aol.com
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: RE: [Ferrari] Winterproof ferrari's
Sent: Nov 9, 2008 13:25

308s and 328s are certainly NOT out of the question! :) My 328 handles UT
winters just fine!

SJ

-----Original Message-----
From: Rodney Ramos [mailto:ltwacko [at] aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 8:24 AM
To: Steve Jenkins
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: [Ferrari] Winterproof ferrari's

Are there any F cars that can handle a Chicago winter? I'm assuming 308's
and 328's are out of the question. 348's? 355's?

Rodney
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