Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Barstool Economics (was RE: Are Ferraris Losing Their Good Looks? )

[Ric Rainbolt (ricrainbolt]

   Do you really think that all who do not / or have not gotten  an
   education truly were given that opportunity as you may have been (
   given the opportunity)?
   No, I just don't think it's MY fault. Again, what moral right do you
   have to force me to fund your guilt complexes? Especially in light of
   the fact that so many of those that foist these guilt-complexes on us
   don't pay even pay anything to support the dozens of programs that are
   already in place.
   And for the record, I don't think I was "given" an "opportunity". That
   implies there was a giver and also that it was a transient event that
   had to be seized.
   I have no formal education. My parents were relatively poor. I've been
   broke twice and recovered, both times without outside assistance. I
   have worked uncountable numbers of 100 hour weeks in my career. I've
   worked, at times, as many as 140 days straight with no days off. I
   created my meager wealth, I wasn't given it.
   Transfer of capital does not create wealth. Only turning matter from
   one form to another does. Everything else is either supportive of that
   activity or it's charity/welfare.
   "Just where do we think (the list in general, not just Charles) the
   middle class begins and or ends dollar wise"
   This is just simplistic labeling to further foster class warfare.
   Picking a number simply draws the battle lines. If a person works
   twice as efficiently as another and twice as many hours, then gets
   four times the pay, is he really a different class of worker?
   "....go out and find some one who truly needs help, help them and then
   get back to me."
   Is this some sort of attempt at taking a moral high ground?
   For the record (again), I have mentored and I have taught my skills
   more than once (yes, for free). I've also supported charities all my
   life. Most of the charities I support involve education at some stage
   of their process: "If you teach a man to fish..."
   I guess the real crying shame is that success itself is not incentive
   anymore, it's derided as being part of the system ("the man") or some
   other such psyco-babble. Many of the young people I've mentored are
   looking for an "angle" to make a quick buck and few, very few,
   actually realize that most millionaires in this country got it from
   good old fashion work ethic. At publicly attended Ferrari events that
   I've been to (DING DING DING!! FERRARI CONTENT!!!) most young people
   are actually noticeably disappointed that there are no movie stars,
   sports stars and/or drug dealers. They look at me like I'm a space
   alien when I tell them I got the Ferrari due to "doing something you
   love and doing it well."
   It is funny / sad, all this commentary on money / taxes and hard
   work....but I do not here much about teaching, mentoring, sharing our
   ability to create / or how we might be able to assist some one who has
   not had the benefit of those resources which most of us have had
   access to.....good homes, caring parents, education, books, families
   with values. I often wonder when I see some one who is suffering ( and
   usually in silence) how much he or she might have accomplished given
   the opportunities that I have merely taken for granted and probably
   wasted.
   Any my point exactly. Big government giveaway programs don't give
   someone a good family. Big government giveaway programs don't give
   someone supportive values. Big government giveaway programs don't give
   kids good families. Most of the programs have the opposite effect. Do
   you think even 5% of entitlement money to poor people is used to buy
   educational books?
   Mentoring, teaching and sharing abilities are all LOCAL functions.
   Best handled by LOCAL (an private IMHO) organizations.
   My wife's sister was raised in the same house by the same parents as
   my wife. My wife is a hard-working, dedicated and well-paid employee.
   She has paid tremendous amounts of taxes over the 18 years of our
   marriage, as have I. Her sister, since about a year before our
   wedding, has been a lifetime welfare recipient. Same access to
   education, same family support, etc. etc..
   Does her sister really deserve to not work, have 3 more kids (5 total)
   out of wedlock and rudely expect WIC support as if it's a god-given
   right? I once offered to help her with her finances and "career" (not
   giving money, but teaching her) and she was more rude to me than
   Bedford Falls was to Mr. Potter. She rudely said "We're doing just
   fine, thank you."  Yea, just fine on other peoples money.
   To make things better, when her oldest daughter got to be 16, she
   actually encouraged her to actively find a boyfriend and have a baby
   so they could get more WIC money!  Neither her, her daughter, nor the
   poor sap she got pregnant by had jobs. Un-fucking-believable. And at
   Christmas, they act like we're the fricking scrooges. I guess we don't
   buy them expensive enough gifts to go with all their free money.
   RR
   At 01:13 PM 11/13/2008, you wrote:

     Compassion for my fellow man is NOT to support someone who doesn't
     bother to get an education,

     Do you really think that all who do not / or have not gotten  an
     education truly were given that opportunity as you may have been (
     given the opportunity)?

     ----- Original Message -----
     From: Ric Rainbolt <ricrainbolt [at] gmail.com>
     Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:51 pm
     Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Barstool Economics (was RE: Are Ferraris
     Losing Their Good Looks? )
     To: Phil Tegtmeier <philville [at] dejazzd.com>
     Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
     > At 05:50 PM 11/12/2008, you wrote:
     >
     > >I fully agree our system is not fair and it really is a form of
     > charity>to a large extent, no question.  It seems the
     > arguments here are based
     > >on just the numbers, but what is missing here is any compassion
     > for your
     > >fellow man.  Sure I work hard to provide for my family and
     > I worry about
     > >their financial security and future but I also recognize that I
     > live in
     > >a society with other people and reading this I recall an old
     > adage my
     > >parents used to tell me: "the world needs ditch diggers too"...
     >
     > And therein is the basis of the problem. This is a worldwide
     > epidemic
     > of misconception, IMHO.
     >
     > Compassion for my fellow man is NOT to support someone who
     > doesn't
     > bother to get an education, or bother to not drink beer that
     > costs
     > more than his gross wages. Is it MY fault that he's a ditch
     > digger?
     > Perhaps I spent years honing my profitable technical skills
     > while he
     > skipped school and drank his way into his situation? Now I'm
     > literally robbed to pay for his misdeeds or lack of proactive
     > foresight.
     > It should for ME to decide when to allow the gift of charity to
     > emanate from MY compassion. I do NOT want to have money taken BY
     > FORCE by large bureaucracy and given willy-nilly to whoever
     > makes up
     > the best boo-hoo sob story. I've lived around and worked with
     > MANY
     > fully able-bodied individuals that were taking money from the
     > system
     > via systematic fraud (workmans comp, Medicare, etc.). Then
     > there's
     > the whole part about federal funding for all kinds of crap that
     > I
     > would NEVER EVER support if given a choice in the matter. I give
     > many
     > thousands to charities each year... ones of MY choosing.
     >
     > There is NO charity in someone taking my money to give to
     > someone
     > else (and in many cases, keep some for themselves for being so
     > righteous). That's playing shift-the-burden-of-my-guilt complex.
     > Far
     > too common.
     >
     > RR
     >
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