Re: Barstool Economics (was RE: Are Ferraris Losing Their Good Looks? )
From: philville dejazzd.com (philvilledejazzd.com)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:30:14 -0800 (PST)
   What is your answer for them?  Fuck you, your screwed?

   Now we are getting some where.
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Mike Fleischer <themightytoe [at] gmail.com>
   Date: Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:46 am
   Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Barstool Economics (was RE: Are Ferraris Losing
   Their Good Looks? )
   To: Phil Tegtmeier <philville [at] dejazzd.com>
   Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
   > I agree with Ric on that point also, but the piece he is missing:
   >
   > The teenage mom struggling to raise her kid when their dad left
   them?
   >
   > The father who lost his job at the local plant, mostly due to
   > poor
   > management by his company, and finds the only job available to
   > him is to
   > serve burgers at local McDonalds as his skills are no longer
   > useable or
   > marketable and his saving will only last him a year?
   >
   > The pensioner, who's lifes savings were stolen away by some
   > shady
   > doctors or Enron executives?
   >
   > What is your answer for them?  Fuck you, your screwed?
   >
   >
   >
   > Brian E. Buxton wrote:
   > > I would have to agree with Ric here.  Having "compassion"
   > for someone
   > > who is living a life based on the consequences of their own
   > decisions
   > > allows that person to not be required to take responsibility
   > for their
   > > decisions.  If they are poor or can't pay their own bills
   > then someone
   > > else will!
   > >
   > > B
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > > Ric Rainbolt wrote:
   > >
   > >
   > >> At 05:50 PM 11/12/2008, you wrote:
   > >>
   > >>
   > >>
   > >>
   > >>> I fully agree our system is not fair and it really is a form
   > of charity
   > >>> to a large extent, no question.  It seems the arguments
   > here are based
   > >>> on just the numbers, but what is missing here is any
   > compassion for your
   > >>> fellow man.  Sure I work hard to provide for my family
   > and I worry about
   > >>> their financial security and future but I also recognize
   > that I live in
   > >>> a society with other people and reading this I recall an old
   > adage my
   > >>> parents used to tell me: "the world needs ditch diggers too"...
   > >>>
   > >>>
   > >>>
   > >> And therein is the basis of the problem. This is a worldwide
   > epidemic
   > >> of misconception, IMHO.
   > >>
   > >> Compassion for my fellow man is NOT to support someone who
   > doesn't
   > >> bother to get an education, or bother to not drink beer that
   > costs
   > >> more than his gross wages. Is it MY fault that he's a ditch
   > digger?
   > >> Perhaps I spent years honing my profitable technical skills
   > while he
   > >> skipped school and drank his way into his situation? Now I'm
   > >> literally robbed to pay for his misdeeds or lack of proactive
   > foresight.>>
   > >> It should for ME to decide when to allow the gift of charity
   > to
   > >> emanate from MY compassion. I do NOT want to have money taken
   > BY
   > >> FORCE by large bureaucracy and given willy-nilly to whoever
   > makes up
   > >> the best boo-hoo sob story. I've lived around and worked with
   > MANY
   > >> fully able-bodied individuals that were taking money from the
   > system
   > >> via systematic fraud (workmans comp, Medicare, etc.). Then
   > there's
   > >> the whole part about federal funding for all kinds of crap
   > that I
   > >> would NEVER EVER support if given a choice in the matter. I
   > give many
   > >> thousands to charities each year... ones of MY choosing.
   > >>
   > >> There is NO charity in someone taking my money to give to
   > someone
   > >> else (and in many cases, keep some for themselves for being
   > so
   > >> righteous). That's playing shift-the-burden-of-my-guilt
   > complex. Far
   > >> too common.
   > >>
   > >> RR
   > >>
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