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Cars not being around I have to agree with you. But my house built in 1979 

has 1 foot concrete walls and roof with 1 1/8 inch rebar. 3700 sqr feet 

tornado proof, worry free sleep in torando alley priceless. During 

construction not 1 but 2 full size bulldozers were parked on the roof. The 

only downside is that I have to mow my roof in the spring, summer and fall.

Stephen

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Rick Lindsay" <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com>

To: "Stephen" <sherman [at] wildblue.net>
Cc: "Ferrari list" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 8:23 AM

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Best car I've driven (A.K.A. Old man rambling 

onTuesday)

Great points Phil.  Unless its been put out to pasture, in a junk yard or 

worse, cars from the '40s - '70s are still around.  Fifty years from now, 

how many cars from the 2000-2010 era will still be around.  Today's cars 

seem to be more throw-away than ever before.  I see the same thing with 

houses.  Houses built at the turn of the (last) century are still 

structurally sound.  Will he houses built today be around in 100 years?  I 

think not.  Houses from the '70s, using 'modern construction techniques' 

are falling apart.  I guess the point is; the life expectancy of about 

everything built today is much shorter than it was is days past.  What 

does that say for our children's world if for some unforeseen reason, 

modern construction (of anything) declines?

Whoa!  Must be Thursday...

rick

--- On Wed, 12/3/08, philville dejazzd.com <philville [at] dejazzd.com> wrote:

From: philville dejazzd.com <philville [at] dejazzd.com>

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Best car I've driven (A.K.A. Old man rambling on 

Tuesday)

To: "rolindsay" <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: "Ferrari list" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 8:16 AM
Fellow old mans club member............memories are
incredible, and,
   at the rate we are going, they may be all that we have
left.

   Last time I checked there were at least 15 domestic auto
manuf. that
   have gone out of bus. since WW II...........

   Will we be adding a couple more in the near
future.......

   We used to say tings like "man my old mans Hudson
had a back seat so
   wide that I could" you fill in the blank,
........what will our grand
   kids be saying 25 years from now some thing like "
I keep hearing
   about how great my grandads Impala SS was, but I've
never seen one."

   Oh well.

   Phil
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: red5hilser [at] aol.com
   Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008 7:39 pm
   Subject: [Ferrari] Best car I've driven (A.K.A. Old
man rambling on
   Tuesday)
   To: Phil Tegtmeier <philville [at] dejazzd.com>
   Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
   > OK, I'll have to admit that the most fun and
best car that I've
   > ever owned and driven was my '53 Jaguar XK120MC
that I bought in
   > late 1957, just?two years out of high school for
$1995.00. In
   > American racing colours, white with blue racing
stripes, with
   > grey blue leather bucket seats. Oh, yea, it had the
Rudge knock-
   > off wheels too. Sharp!
   >
   > I'd seen Kirk Douglas in 'The Racers' a
few months earlier, and
   > that film gave me the bug. I was working at a paper
in Newport
   > Beach, making $2.25 an hour and saving for college.
I'm not
   > saying that things were cheap back then, But I had
a 1 bedroom
   > apt. on 45th St, a block from the ocean that cost
me $70 a month.
   >
   > Things were way different back then and I used to
do my weekly
   > grocery shopping at Richards Lido Market for less
than $20 a
   > week. Another thing that was different was that
occasionally I'd
   > be in the checkout line with John Wayne, just like
some ordinary
   > Joe Blow! He lived a few blocks away on Lido Isle.
Hell, the
   > ocean was so close that I'd go surf fishing
before work!
   >
   > The Duke (Marion Morrison from Glendale in real
life) played
   > football with my uncle, Jesse T. Hill at USC back
in the late
   > 1920's before he became a star in Hollywood,
along with Ward
   > Bond. Interesting story about the Duke at USC,
seems like one
   > year the Trojans were National Champions, but the
coach, Gloomy
   > Gus Henderson, I think, wouldn't let the team
play in the Rose
   > Bowl. Seems like the Duke and some of the rest of
the team were
   > arrested at?Clara Bow's estate during some orgy
one night. As
   > they say in 2008, MY BAD!
   >
   > Uncle Jesse later played MLB for both the old NY
Yankees and
   > Washington Senators before becoming the head
Football Coach and
   > AD at USC. He hired John McKay as head football
coach in one of
   > his wiser moves..
   >
   > Anyway, in 1958, any foreign car, even in L.A.?was
as scarce as
   > pork chops at a Jewish wedding. I counted 14
foreign cars on a
   > Sunday trip from Newport Beach to Pasedena, where
my grandmother
   > lived. And that included VWs, All Japanese, French,
English and
   > Italian too.
   >
   > The L.A.-Hollywood, Orange County Sports Car racing
community
   > was so small at that time, that there was a little
Racing Bar
   > called The Checkered Flag, out in the Valley that
showed amateur
   > racing films every Tuesday night. All the local
racers showed up
   > and it wouldn't be unusual to see Dennis
Hooper, Lance
   > Reventlow, Ronnie Burns (George & Gracie's
son), George Follmer,
   > Bruce Kessler, Richie Ginther?and the rest of them
at a nearby
   > table. drinking beer and enjoying the 16mm films.
   >
   > Ach, the memories, yer pal Bubba
   >
   >
   > -----Original Message-----
   > From: pokiebaron
   > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] [Mgs] Best car I've
driven (A.K.A. Old
   > man rambling on Tuesday
   >
   >
   >
   > Most fun car I ever drove was an English spec
'79 911
   > Targa.  No car I've
   > drive has rewarded me so quickly for doing
something right, or
   > punished me
   > equally as fast for doing something wrong. lol.
Having the
   > wheel on the
   > other side and the pedals more offset than in a
left hand drive
   > car just
   > added to the fun, and challenge.  I liked it so
much, I'm
   > buying it.
   >
   > Worst, was a tie between a friends Range Rover, or
Honda
   > Civic.  Range Rover
   > always felt like the body was going in one
direction, and
   > everything under
   > it, in another.  The Civic, is the only car
I've ever
   > scared myself in!
   >
   > Current cars,
   >
   > '88 300E
   > '80 911SC
   > '94 Sunbird... I have to store my tools
somewhere. hee hee
   >
   > Ed
   >
   > 2008/12/2 Rick Lindsay <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com>
   >
   > > Great list Murry.  Instead of kicking Miatas
(which only
   > happened on the MG
   > > list, BTW ;-) this whole thread started with
the most-fun-to-
   > drive car
   > > comment.  For me, it was an '89 BMW 325iS.
 The
   > worst of them all was a
   > > Phymouth Arrow.  Bought it new, broke a timing
belt 3-
   > weeks after taking
   > > delivery.  The car sat at the dealer for 3
months waiting
   > for parts.  Never
   > > ran worth a flip after the dealer's
repair.  Kept it only
   > a year.  Sadly, I
   > > was a green kid and didn't know my rights
with regard to
   > defective products.
   > >  I ate the loss.
   > >
   > > So there you have it.  From a guy with two
Ferraris in
   > the garage, the best
   > > car I've driven was a BMW and the worst a
Plymouth (Mitsubishi).
   > >
   > > rick
   > > PS: I really loved my Series II XJ6 too.
   > >
   > >
   > > --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Murray Arundell
<arundell [at] ghs.com.au> wrote:
   > >
   > > > From: Murray Arundell
<arundell [at] ghs.com.au>
   > > > Subject: Re: [Mgs] Best car I've
driven (A.K.A. Old man
   > rambling on
   > > Tuesday
   > > > To: "Steve"
<temporarilyoffline [at] gmail.com>
   > > > Cc: "Rick Lindsay"
<rolindsay [at] yahoo.com>, "MGS"
   > <mgs [at] autox.team.net>,> "IPOG"
<ponton [at] yahoogroups.com>,
   > "ferrari" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
   > > > Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:03 PM
   > > > Some standout non MG cars in my past, in
no particular
   > > > order:-
   > > >
   > > > Fiat 125s c/w close ratio 5-speed, twin
   > cam motor, Abrath
   > > > Wheels.  My
   > > > first real car.  Loved it, thrashed it
and eventually
   > > > wrecked it.
   > > > Should really buy another while I still
can.
   > > > VW Gold GLi.  Lovely sweet cat, brilliant
dynamics but I
   > > > had warranty
   > > > issues with dealer which soured the
owning experience.
   > > > Alfa 33Ti.  Brilliant but flawed car.
When it all
   > worked> > properly and
   > > > you were blasting through that mountain
pass life was
   > > > bliss.  However
   > > > these periods were interspersed with
reliability and build
   > > > quality
   > > > problems.  The day it was sold was a
bitter sweet day.
   > > > Glad it was
   > > > out of my life, but there was that
lingering feeling that I
   > > > would miss
   > > > it and I did.
   > > > Jaguar Sovereign Double Six Saloon.
Bought new and at the
   > > > time "the
   > > > best Saloon in the World".
   > > > Holden Commodore SLE 5.0. (A GM product)
Another one bought
   > > > new.
   > > > Fitted with a 308ci V8 and four speed
gearbox.  In 78 these
   > > > were the
   > > > bees knees in Australia.  Went like the
clappers, actually
   > > > went around
   > > > corners too.  Had air-con and all the
power bits and
   > > > pieces.  Flogged
   > > > it unmercifully and nothing ever broke.
It was a very
   > > > satisfying
   > > > drive.  Sadly subsequent Commodores never
quite cut it like
   > > > this one
   > > > did.
   > > > 1963 Holden Premier.  179 ci six
cylinder.  My
   > first car, I
   > > > loved it
   > > > then, would love one now.
   > > > 1977 VW Kombi Camper.  Slow, evil
handling and you could
   > > > not kill it a
   > > > stick.  Cant pass one on the road today
without wishing I
   > > > still had
   > > > it.....
   > > >
   > > > Murray Arundell
   > > > Brisbane Australia
   > > >
   > > > 49 MG-TC
   > > > 65 MGB-V8 (Historic Racer)
   > > > 98 MG-F v.v.c
   > > > 04 BMW RT1200 (only 2 wheels)
   > > > 06 Peugeot 407 sv (Whife's Wheels)
   > > > 08 Mercedes ML480
   > > >
   > > > On 03/12/2008, at 12:07 AM, Steve wrote:
   > > >
   > > > > I've got a '91 E30 AWD
model... I'll trade
   > > > ya.
   > > > >
   > > > > - Steve
   > > > >
   > > > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 8:20 AM, Rick
Lindsay
   > > > <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com>
   > > > > wrote:
   > > > >
   > > > >> Hello Friends,
   > > > >>
   > > > >>  As I drove in to work t
   > oday in my '08
   > > > Mercedes C300, I finished a
   > > > >> test.
   > > > >> Over the past couple of days I
have driven every
   > > > car that I
   > > > >> presently own.
   > > > >> There are six of them in the
scuderia.  Okay,
   > > > okay, the ponton isn't
   > > > >> "drivable" but I did
start it and warm
   > > > it up last Sunday.  Anyway,
   > > > >> this test
   > > > >> was the continuation of the
308GTB vs Mondial QV
   > > > comparison that I
   > > > >> did over
   > > > >> the weekend.
   > > > >>
   > > > >>  As STYX's "Too Much
Time on my
   > > > Hands" ended on the C300's
sounds
   > > > >> system I
   > > > >> realized that I have now owned
over sixty cars in
   > > > my tender 57 years,
   > > > >> ranging from a 1930 Chevrolet
Deluxe to a 2008
   > > > Mercedes C300!  That
   > > > >> thought
   > > > >> led be to consider which of the
lot is my all-time
   > > > favorite to drive.
   > > > >> Here's the story and what I
concluded.
   > > > >>
   > > > >>  The most exciting car-related
moment I recall was
   > > > the day I picked
   > > > >> up my
   > > > >> 308GTB.  As I left Phil
Tegtmeyer's quiet,
   > > > supportive company I
   > > > >> thought to
   > > > >> myself, "I'm driving
Ferrari.  Oh my God,
   > > > I'm driving MY
   > > > >> Ferrari!!!"  I
   > > > >> guess the second most exciting
moment was when I
   > > > got my first
   > > > >> sports car at
   > > > >> the age of eighteen.  It was a
Fiat 850 Spyder.
   > > > Most beautiful car
   > > > >> I had
   > > > >> ever seen!
   > > > >>
   > > > >>  Flash forward to today and I
ask; Of all the cars
   > > > I have owned,
   > > > >> which one
   > > > >> was the overall most enjoyable
to drive?  The
   > > > answer surprised even
   > > > >> me. It
   > > > >> was my little bright red '89
BMW 325iS
   > > > coupe'.  The E30 cars feel
   > > > >> like
   > > > >> go-karts, light as a feather and
the 2.5 litre
   > > > "little six" is a
   > > > >> great
   > > > >> engine.  Hook that to a 5-speed
manual gearbox and
   > > > you get my all-
   > > > >> time
   > > > >> favorite.  Yea, I was surprised
too.  Wish I still
   > > > owned it.
   > > > >>
   > > > >> Happy Tuesday,
   > > > >>
   > > > >> rick
   > > > >> 2 x Ferrari
   > > > >> 2 x Mercedes
   > > > >> 1 x BMW
   > > > >> 1 x Land Rover
   > > > >>
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Re: Best car I've driven (A.K.A. Old man rambling onTuesday)	<– Date –> <– Thread –>
From: Stephen Sherman (shermanwildblue.net)
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 08:10:58 -0800 (PST)