Re: Goodyear's First F1 Win, Was HOnda quits F-1 Next year
From: red5hilser (red5hilseraol.com)
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:12:48 -0800 (PST)
Kudos to you, my friend. As John (the Teflon Don) always said, "Hard work and 
perseverance always pays of at the end."  --  Bubba


-----Original Message-----
From: JAshburne
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Goodyear's First F1 Win, Was HOnda quits F-1 Next year



I found it, it's 1965!

ohn


ttp://grandprix.com/gpe/tir-003.html 
he company continued to grow in the US through innovative products but  in 
he mid-1960s the company began to expand internationally and decided to  enter 
rand Prix racing in 1965 and scored its first win with _Ritchie Ginther_ 
http://grandprix.com/gpe/drv-ginric.html) 's _Honda_ 
http://grandprix.com/gpe/con-honda.html)  in the _1965 Mexican Grand Prix_ 
http://grandprix.com/gpe/rr141.html) . Goodyear stayed  in F1 (except for a few 
onths in 1980-81) until 
998 by which time it had  scored a total of 368 Grand Prix victories. The 
ompany's nearest rival is  Dunlop with 83 victories.




n a message dated 12/5/2008 4:18:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
Ashburne [at] aol.com writes:

ell  Formula 1 racing dates only back to 1950, so IF Indy was a "Grand  
rix"  
nd IF the Maserati was on Goodyear tires, it WAS NOT a Formula 1   race!  HA!
Now here are some snippets of Goodyear's history from  their own  website:

964 Craig Breedlove set speed record at  Bonneville Salt  Flats, 526.28 mph 
n a jet-powered Spirit of America  equipped with Goodyear  tires....Goodyear 
ntered international   racing field for first time....New Italian plant 
tarted.  

=0
D965  Craig Breedlove broke speed record at Bonneville Salt  Flats at a speed 

f 600.601 mph on Goodyear tires....In less than two years after  entering  
nternational racing competition, Goodyear won the 24 Hours  of Le Mans,  
rance.. 


967.A.J. Foyt rode to victory at the Indianapolis 500, and   Dennis Hulme 
on 
he 1967 World Driving  Championship, both on  Goodyear tires 
o while this doesn't answer the question definitely of  what year  did a 
oodyear shod car first win a Formula 1 race, this  seems to place it  
ometime 
etween 1964 and 1967, so maybe my guess  of 1967 wasn't so far off  after 
ll. 

What  does everyone else  have? 

John
In a message dated 12/5/2008 2:02:48 P.M. Eastern Standard  Time,  
ed5hilser [at] aol.com writes:
Yea, it  was. Alberto  Ascari and Ferrari were the only ones to give Indy a 
hot. I  think  it was in 1952. Either he didn't qualify or was out early in 
he 
ace.  A  maserati won in 1939, driven (i Think) by Maury Rose. It was called 

he Boyle  Secial and had shamrocks painted on the sides. Green on a  1930's 
merican race  car? Unheard of!
Does anyone remember  'The Race of Two Worlds" held at  Monza in 1957? It 
sed 
he infamous  banking that we saw in the film Grand  Prix. Jimmy Bryan won 
hat  one. Moss in a Maserati, the D Type Jaguars and a  lone Ferrari were 
lso  
ntered. Luigi Musso was the fastest of the Europeans,  but the car  DNF'd. 
oss 
ook
 a wicked spin on the banking when a tyre blew,  but  as unhurt. I've 
een 
ilms of it. Frightening!
Yer pal,  Ferrari  Bubba

----Original Message-----
rom: LS  

Wasn't  Indy on the F1 calender from 1950-60? So it was  in the  30s?


rom: "red5hilser [at] aol.com"   <red5hilser [at] aol.com>
o: lashdeep [at] yahoo.com;   Ferrari [at] Ferrarilist.com
ent: Friday, December 5, 2008 12:51:03   PM
ubject: Re: [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 Next year
Not even  close.  Try a few decades earlier. Time for cLyDe to 'Check Six' 
nd  
me up with the  right answer!
Yer pal,. Shitbox  Bubba

----Original  Message-----
rom: LS  <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
o:  red5hilser [at] aol.com
c: The  FerrariList  <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
ent: Fri, 5 Dec 2008  11:17 am
ubject:  Re: [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 Next  year

It's got to be an Indy  500 race when it was on the  F1 schedule...
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: LS   <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
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nt: Friday, December 5, 2008  11:59:23  AM
bject: Re: [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 Next year
arly  a few  years!  --  Bubba
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om:  Itsme
bject: Re: [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1  Next  year
1960???

f an American is to amount to  anything  he must rely upon himself, and not 
pon 
e State; he  must take pride in  his own work, instead of sitting idle to 
nvy  
e luck of others.”  
eodore Roosevelt

 a message  dated 12/5/2008 8:43:49 A
.  Pa
cific Standard Time, Red5hilser  
ites:
fter following F1 Racing  since 1956, there's one thing  that I've learned. 
eams 
me, and teams go,  and the world (and  racing) still goes on.
nyone remember Lancia, Maserati,  Lotus,  Cooper, BRM, and the rest. It'll 
e 
siness as usual next year,  with  or without Honda. The only constant is our 
loved Ferrari!
TW, I   won a trivia contest one time. The question was: What year did  
oodyear  
n it's first Fi victory? Although being 'under the  weather' that night,  
it 
st have been something I drank) I  correctly named the year, race and  
river. 
 Figure. . .  
nybody out there got the answer(s)?
er  trivia buff, Ferrari  Bubba
----Original Message-----
om: Rick  
bject: Re:  [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 Next year
I guess the real  question is;  Does this mean that they are just not running 
 
rks' team or   does it mean that they will also no l
nger be an engine  
plier?   Or both?
ck
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rom: Rich  <Rich355 [at] comcast.net>
bject: [Ferrari] HOnda  quits F-1 Next  y
r
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te: Friday, December 5,   2008, 8:47   AM
tp://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Honda-Quits-F1-Lunchtime-Webchat-With-
ormer-Marketing-Director/Article/200812115173294?lpos=UK_News_Top_Stories_Hea
er_1&lid=ARTICLE_15173294_Honda_Quits_F1%3A_Lunchtime_Webchat_With_Former_Mar
eting_Director_
:18pm   UK, Friday December 05, 2008 
nda says it will 
not be competing in  next  year's
rmula One championship - but what does this mean  for  motor
cing?
 Formula One on the decline?Are more teams  going  to
llow suit? Would the Honda team have been saved by  more
onsorship  deals?
ead our replay of our lunchtime webchat.  We were joined  by
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 a message  dated 12/5/2008 8:43:49 A.M. Pacific  Standard Time, Red5hilser  
ites:
fter following F1 Racing since  1956, there's one thing that  I've learned. 
eams 
me, and teams  go, and the world (and racing) still  goes on.
nyone remember Lancia,  Maserati, Lotus, Cooper, BRM, and the  rest. It'll 
e 
siness as  usual next year, with or without Honda. The only  constant=2
0is our 

loved Ferrari!
TW, I won a trivia contest one time.  The  question was: What year did 
oodyear 
n it's first Fi victory?   Although being 'under the weather' that night, 
it 
st have been  something  I drank) I correctly named the year, race and 
river.  
 Figure. . .  
nybody out there got the answer(s)?
er trivia  buff, Ferrari  Bubba
----Original Message-----
om: Rick  
bject: Re: [Ferrari]  HOnda quits F-1 Next year
I guess the  real question is; Does this mean  that they are just not running 
  
rks' team or does it mean that they will  also no longer be an  engine 
plier?  Or both?
ck
- On Fri,  12/5/08, Rich  <Rich355 [at] comcast.net> wrote:
rom: Rich   <Rich355 [at] comcast.net>
bject: [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 Next   year
: "rolindsay" <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com>
: "The  FerrariList"  <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
te: Friday, December 5,  2008, 8:47   AM
tp://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Honda-Quits-F1-Lunchtime-Webchat-With-
ormer-Marketing-Director/Article/200812115173294?lpos=UK_News_Top_Stories_Hea
er_1&lid=ARTICLE_15173294_Honda_Quits_F1%3A_Lunchtime_Webchat_With_Former_Mar
eting_Director_
:
8pm   UK, Friday December 05, 2008 
nda s
s it will not be competing in  next  year's
rmula One championship - but what does this mean  for  motor
cing?
 Formula One on the decline?Are more teams  going  to
llow suit? Would the Honda team have been saved by  more
onsorship  deals?
ead our replay of our lunchtime webchat.  We were joined  by
istair Watkins, former Marketing Director of 
Honda  F1 and
irector  of sports marketing agency i-nfluence and  James
berts, news editor from F1  Racing   Magazine.
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