Re: Goodyear's First F1 Win, Was HOnda quits F-1 Next year | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: JAshburne (JAshburne![]() |
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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 14:41:51 -0800 (PST) |
I found it, it's 1965! John http://grandprix.com/gpe/tir-003.html The company continued to grow in the US through innovative products but in the mid-1960s the company began to expand internationally and decided to enter Grand Prix racing in 1965 and scored its first win with _Ritchie Ginther_ (http://grandprix.com/gpe/drv-ginric.html) 's _Honda_ (http://grandprix.com/gpe/con-honda.html) in the _1965 Mexican Grand Prix_ (http://grandprix.com/gpe/rr141.html) . Goodyear stayed in F1 (except for a few months in 1980-81) until 1998 by which time it had scored a total of 368 Grand Prix victories. The company's nearest rival is Dunlop with 83 victories. In a message dated 12/5/2008 4:18:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, JAshburne [at] aol.com writes: Well Formula 1 racing dates only back to 1950, so IF Indy was a "Grand Prix" and IF the Maserati was on Goodyear tires, it WAS NOT a Formula 1 race! HA! Now here are some snippets of Goodyear's history from their own website: 1964 Craig Breedlove set speed record at Bonneville Salt Flats, 526.28 mph in a jet-powered Spirit of America equipped with Goodyear tires....Goodyear entered international racing field for first time....New Italian plant started. 1965 Craig Breedlove broke speed record at Bonneville Salt Flats at a speed of 600.601 mph on Goodyear tires....In less than two years after entering international racing competition, Goodyear won the 24 Hours of Le Mans, France.. 1967.A.J. Foyt rode to victory at the Indianapolis 500, and Dennis Hulme won the 1967 World Driving Championship, both on Goodyear tires So while this doesn't answer the question definitely of what year did a Goodyear shod car first win a Formula 1 race, this seems to place it sometime between 1964 and 1967, so maybe my guess of 1967 wasn't so far off after all. What does everyone else have? John In a message dated 12/5/2008 2:02:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, red5hilser [at] aol.com writes: Yea, it was. Alberto Ascari and Ferrari were the only ones to give Indy a shot. I think it was in 1952. Either he didn't qualify or was out early in the race. A maserati won in 1939, driven (i Think) by Maury Rose. It was called the Boyle Secial and had shamrocks painted on the sides. Green on a 1930's American race car? Unheard of! Does anyone remember 'The Race of Two Worlds" held at Monza in 1957? It used the infamous banking that we saw in the film Grand Prix. Jimmy Bryan won that one. Moss in a Maserati, the D Type Jaguars and a lone Ferrari were also entered. Luigi Musso was the fastest of the Europeans, but the car DNF'd. Moss took a wicked spin on the banking when a tyre blew, but as unhurt. I've seen films of it. Frightening! Yer pal, Ferrari Bubba -----Original Message----- From: LS Wasn't Indy on the F1 calender from 1950-60? So it was in the 30s? From: "red5hilser [at] aol.com" <red5hilser [at] aol.com> To: lashdeep [at] yahoo.com; Ferrari [at] Ferrarilist.com Sent: Friday, December 5, 2008 12:51:03 PM Subject: Re: [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 Next year Not even close. Try a few decades earlier. Time for cLyDe to 'Check Six' and cme up with the right answer! Yer pal,. Shitbox Bubba -----Original Message----- From: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> To: red5hilser [at] aol.com Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> Sent: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:17 am Subject: Re: [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 Next year It's got to be an Indy 500 race when it was on the F1 schedule... ----- Original20Message ---- rom: "red5hilser [at] aol.com" <red5hilser [at] aol.com> o: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> c: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> ent: Friday, December 5, 2008 11:59:23 AM ubject: Re: [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 Next year Early a few years! -- Bubba ----Original Message----- rom: Itsme ubject: Re: [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 Next year 1960??? If an American is to amount to anything he must rely upon himself, and not upon he State; he must take pride in his own work, instead of sitting idle to envy he luck of others.” heodore Roosevelt n a message dated 12/5/2008 8:43:49 A M. Pacific Standard Time, Red5hilser rites: After following F1 Racing since 1956, there's one thing that I've learned. Teams ome, and teams go, and the world (and racing) still goes on. Anyone remember Lancia, Maserati, Lotus, Cooper, BRM, and the rest. It'll be usiness as usual next year, with or without Honda. The only constant is our eloved Ferrari! BTW, I won a trivia contest one time. The question was: What year did Goodyear in it's first Fi victory? Although being 'under the weather' that night, (it ust have been something I drank) I correctly named the year, race and driver. o Figure. . . Anybody out there got the answer(s)? Yer trivia buff, Ferrari Bubba ----Original Message----- rom: Rick ubject: Re: [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 Next year I guess the real question is; Does this mean that they are just not running a orks' team or does it mean that they will also no l onger be an engine pplier? Or both? ick -- On Fri, 12/5/08, Rich <Rich355 [at] comcast.net> wrote: From: Rich <Rich355 [at] comcast.net> ubject: [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 Next y ar o: "rolindsay" <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com> c: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> ate: Friday, December 5, 2008, 8:47 AM ttp://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Honda-Quits-F1-Lunchtime-Webchat-With- Former-Marketing-Director/Article/200812115173294?lpos=UK_News_Top_Stories_Hea der_1&lid=ARTICLE_15173294_Honda_Quits_F1%3A_Lunchtime_Webchat_With_Former_Mar keting_Director_ 1:18pm UK, Friday December 05, 2008 onda says it will not be competing in next year's ormula One championship - but what does this mean for motor acing? s Formula One on the decline?Are more teams going to ollow suit? Would the Honda team have been saved by more ponsorship deals? Read our replay of our lunchtime webchat. We were joined by listair Watkins, former Marketing Director of Honda F1 and Director of sports marketing agency i-nfluence and James oberts, news editor from F1 Racing Magazine. ________________________________________________________________ o unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please isit: ttp://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/rolindsay%40yahoo.com Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com nd F1 Headlines ttp://www.F1Headlines.com/ _______________________________________________________________ unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: tp://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/red5hilser%40aol.com ponsored by BooyahMedia.com d F1 Headli es tp://www.F1Headlines.com/ Listen to 350+ music, sports, & news radio stations – including son gs for the olidays – FREE while you browse. Start Listening Now! n a message dated 12/5/2008 8:43:49 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, Red5hilser rites: After following F1 Racing since 1956, there's one thing that I've learned. Teams ome, and teams go, and the world (and racing) still goes on. Anyone remember Lancia, Maserati, Lotus, Cooper, BRM, and the rest. It'll be usiness as usual next year, with or without Honda. The only constant is our eloved Ferrari! BTW, I won a trivia contest one time. The question was: What year did Goodyear in it's first Fi victory? Although being 'under the weather' that night, (it ust have been something I drank) I correctly named the year, race and driver. o Figure. . . Anybody out there got the answer(s)? Yer trivia buff, Ferrari Bubba ----Original Message----- rom: Rick ubject: Re: [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 Next year I guess the real question is; Does this mean that they are just not running a orks' team or does it mean that they will also no longer be an engine pplier? Or both? ick -- On Fri, 12/5/08, Rich <Rich355 [at] comcast.net> wrote: From: Rich <Rich355 [at] comcast.net> ubject: [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 Next year o: "rolindsay" <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com> c: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> ate: Friday, December 5, 2008, 8:47 AM ttp://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Honda-Quits-F1-Lunchtime-Webchat-With- Former-Marketing-Director/Article/200812115173294?lpos=UK_News_Top_Stories_Hea der_1&lid=ARTICLE_15173294_Honda_Quits_F1%3A_Lunchtime_Webchat_With_Former_Mar keting_Director_ 1: 18pm UK, Friday December 05, 2008 onda s ys it will not be competing in next year's ormula One championship - but what does this mean for motor acing? s Formula One on the decline?Are more teams going to ollow suit? Would the Honda team have been saved by more ponsorship deals? Read our replay of our lunchtime webchat. We were joined by listair Watkins, former Marketing Director of Honda F1 and Director of sports marketing agency i-nfluence and James oberts, news editor from F1 Racing Magazine. ________________________________________________________________ o unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please isit: ttp://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/rolindsay%40yahoo.com Sponsored by ooyahMedia.com nd F1 Headlines ttp://www.F1Headlines.com/ _______________________________________________________________ unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: tp://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/red5hilser%40aol.com ponsored by BooyahMedia.com d F1 Headlines tp://www.F1Headlines.com/ Listen to 350+ music, sports, & news radio stations – including songs for the olidays – FREE while you browse. Start Listening Now! Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one lace. 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Re: Goodyear's First F1 Win, Was HOnda quits F-1 Next year JAshburne, December 5 2008
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