Re: Goodyear's First F1 Win, Was HOnda quits F-1 Next year
From: JAshburne (JAshburneaol.com)
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 14:41:51 -0800 (PST)
I found it, it's 1965!
 
John
 
 
http://grandprix.com/gpe/tir-003.html 
The company continued to grow in the US through innovative products but  in 
the mid-1960s the company began to expand internationally and decided to  enter 
Grand Prix racing in 1965 and scored its first win with _Ritchie Ginther_ 
(http://grandprix.com/gpe/drv-ginric.html) 's _Honda_ 
(http://grandprix.com/gpe/con-honda.html)  in the _1965 Mexican Grand Prix_ 
(http://grandprix.com/gpe/rr141.html) . Goodyear stayed  in F1 (except for a 
few months in 1980-81) until 
1998 by which time it had  scored a total of 368 Grand Prix victories. The 
company's nearest rival is  Dunlop with 83 victories.
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 12/5/2008 4:18:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
JAshburne [at] aol.com writes:


Well  Formula 1 racing dates only back to 1950, so IF Indy was a "Grand  
Prix"  
and IF the Maserati was on Goodyear tires, it WAS NOT a Formula 1   race!  HA!

Now here are some snippets of Goodyear's history from  their own  website:


1964 Craig Breedlove set speed record at  Bonneville Salt  Flats, 526.28 mph 
in a jet-powered Spirit of America  equipped with Goodyear  tires....Goodyear 
entered international   racing field for first time....New Italian plant 
started.  




1965  Craig Breedlove broke speed record at Bonneville Salt  Flats at a speed 
 
of 600.601 mph on Goodyear tires....In less than two years after  entering  
international racing competition, Goodyear won the 24 Hours  of Le Mans,  
France.. 




1967.A.J. Foyt rode to victory at the Indianapolis 500, and   Dennis Hulme 
won 
the 1967 World Driving  Championship, both on  Goodyear tires 
So while this doesn't answer the question definitely of  what year  did a 
Goodyear shod car first win a Formula 1 race, this  seems to place it  
sometime 
between 1964 and 1967, so maybe my guess  of 1967 wasn't so far off  after 
all. 



What  does everyone else  have? 



John

In a message dated 12/5/2008 2:02:48 P.M. Eastern Standard  Time,  
red5hilser [at] aol.com writes:

Yea, it  was. Alberto  Ascari and Ferrari were the only ones to give Indy a 
shot. I  think  it was in 1952. Either he didn't qualify or was out early in 
the 
race.  A  maserati won in 1939, driven (i Think) by Maury Rose. It was called 
 
the Boyle  Secial and had shamrocks painted on the sides. Green on a  1930's 
American race  car? Unheard of!

Does anyone remember  'The Race of Two Worlds" held at  Monza in 1957? It 
used 
the infamous  banking that we saw in the film Grand  Prix. Jimmy Bryan won 
that  one. Moss in a Maserati, the D Type Jaguars and a  lone Ferrari were 
also  
entered. Luigi Musso was the fastest of the Europeans,  but the car  DNF'd. 
Moss 
took a wicked spin on the banking when a tyre blew,  but  as unhurt. I've 
seen 
films of it. Frightening!

Yer pal,  Ferrari  Bubba


-----Original Message-----
From: LS  



Wasn't  Indy on the F1 calender from 1950-60? So it was  in the  30s?




From: "red5hilser [at] aol.com"   <red5hilser [at] aol.com>
To: lashdeep [at] yahoo.com;   Ferrari [at] Ferrarilist.com
Sent: Friday, December 5, 2008 12:51:03   PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 Next year

Not even  close.  Try a few decades earlier. Time for cLyDe to 'Check Six' 
and  
cme up with the  right answer!

Yer pal,. Shitbox  Bubba


-----Original  Message-----
From: LS  <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
To:  red5hilser [at] aol.com
Cc: The  FerrariList  <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Fri, 5 Dec 2008  11:17 am
Subject:  Re: [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 Next  year



It's got to be an Indy  500 race when it was on the  F1 schedule...

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rom:  "red5hilser [at] aol.com" <red5hilser [at] aol.com>
o: LS   <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
c: The FerrariList   <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
ent: Friday, December 5, 2008  11:59:23  AM
ubject: Re: [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 Next year
Early  a few  years!  --  Bubba

----Original  Message-----
rom:  Itsme
ubject: Re: [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1  Next  year

1960???


If an American is to amount to  anything  he must rely upon himself, and not 
upon 
he State; he  must take pride in  his own work, instead of sitting idle to 
envy  
he luck of others.”  
heodore Roosevelt


n a message  dated 12/5/2008 8:43:49 A
M.  Pacific Standard Time, Red5hilser  
rites:
After following F1 Racing  since 1956, there's one thing  that I've learned. 
Teams 
ome, and teams go,  and the world (and  racing) still goes on.
Anyone remember Lancia, Maserati,  Lotus,  Cooper, BRM, and the rest. It'll 
be 
usiness as usual next year,  with  or without Honda. The only constant is our 
eloved Ferrari!
BTW, I   won a trivia contest one time. The question was: What year did  
Goodyear  
in it's first Fi victory? Although being 'under the  weather' that night,  
(it 
ust have been something I drank) I  correctly named the year, race and  
driver. 
o Figure. . .  
Anybody out there got the answer(s)?
Yer  trivia buff, Ferrari  Bubba

----Original Message-----
rom: Rick  
ubject: Re:  [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 Next year

I guess the real  question is;  Does this mean that they are just not running 
a 
orks' team or   does it mean that they will also no l
onger be an engine  
pplier?   Or both?
ick
-- On Fri, 12/5/08, Rich  <Rich355 [at] comcast.net>  wrote:
From: Rich  <Rich355 [at] comcast.net>
ubject: [Ferrari] HOnda  quits F-1 Next  y
ar
o: "rolindsay" <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com>
c:  "The  FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
ate: Friday, December 5,   2008, 8:47   AM
ttp://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Honda-Quits-F1-Lunchtime-Webchat-With-
Former-Marketing-Director/Article/200812115173294?lpos=UK_News_Top_Stories_Hea
der_1&lid=ARTICLE_15173294_Honda_Quits_F1%3A_Lunchtime_Webchat_With_Former_Mar
keting_Director_
1:18pm   UK, Friday December 05, 2008 
onda says it will not be competing in  next  year's
ormula One championship - but what does this mean  for  motor
acing?
s Formula One on the decline?Are more teams  going  to
ollow suit? Would the Honda team have been saved by  more
ponsorship  deals?
Read our replay of our lunchtime webchat.  We were joined  by
listair Watkins, former Marketing Director of Honda  F1 and
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n a message  dated 12/5/2008 8:43:49 A.M. Pacific  Standard Time, Red5hilser  
rites:
After following F1 Racing since  1956, there's one thing that  I've learned. 
Teams 
ome, and teams  go, and the world (and racing) still  goes on.
Anyone remember Lancia,  Maserati, Lotus, Cooper, BRM, and the  rest. It'll 
be 
usiness as  usual next year, with or without Honda. The only  constant is our 
 
eloved Ferrari!
BTW, I won a trivia contest one time.  The  question was: What year did 
Goodyear 
in it's first Fi victory?   Although being 'under the weather' that night, 
(it 
ust have been  something  I drank) I correctly named the year, race and 
driver.  
o Figure. . .  
Anybody out there got the answer(s)?
Yer trivia  buff, Ferrari  Bubba

----Original Message-----
rom: Rick  
ubject: Re: [Ferrari]  HOnda quits F-1 Next year

I guess the  real question is; Does this mean  that they are just not running 
a  
orks' team or does it mean that they will  also no longer be an  engine 
pplier?  Or both?
ick
-- On Fri,  12/5/08, Rich  <Rich355 [at] comcast.net> wrote:
From: Rich   <Rich355 [at] comcast.net>
ubject: [Ferrari] HOnda quits F-1 Next   year
o: "rolindsay" <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com>
c: "The  FerrariList"  <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
ate: Friday, December 5,  2008, 8:47   AM
ttp://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Honda-Quits-F1-Lunchtime-Webchat-With-
Former-Marketing-Director/Article/200812115173294?lpos=UK_News_Top_Stories_Hea
der_1&lid=ARTICLE_15173294_Honda_Quits_F1%3A_Lunchtime_Webchat_With_Former_Mar
keting_Director_
1:
18pm   UK, Friday December 05, 2008 
onda s
ys it will not be competing in  next  year's
ormula One championship - but what does this mean  for  motor
acing?
s Formula One on the decline?Are more teams  going  to
ollow suit? Would the Honda team have been saved by  more
ponsorship  deals?
Read our replay of our lunchtime webchat.  We were joined  by
listair Watkins, former Marketing Director of Honda  F1 and
Director  of sports marketing agency i-nfluence and  James
oberts, news editor from F1  Racing   Magazine.
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