Re: Oil company bail-out
From: LarryT (l02turnercomcast.net)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 04:44:37 -0800 (PST)
You wrote <<If I could look into a crystal ball and predict the future of newspapers, I would probably see that by the year 2015, 85% of all newspapers would be either in electronic form or be gone, while about 15% would be hanging on for dear life. (if there is any life left by that time.)>>

I'd agree with your crystal ball - - the times they are a-changing - reminds me of being in the 10th grade starting a shop class called "Graphic Arts" consisting of Screen Printing, Letterpress printing (setting each letter the old fashioned way), Offset printing and Photography. Class was 2 hrs long and I loved it - one thing the teacher said that I always recall - he said - there will always be books (well kinda) and printing needed for newspapers and other printing needs.

Of course now it's all done with a computer - where once a large room was needed for all the sizes and styles of letters all that's needed is a tiny hard drive. Unless it;s going into an ebook the offset press is still needed to produce a printed page - but there is so much being done on the computer now I wonder how much longer we;ll see any printed pages.

The teacher BTW went on to become a multi-millionaire - starting selling encylopaedias door-to-door - then getting involved in a new technology - something called a "Cell" phone - you may have heard of it/ He invested heavily in it in the 70s and 80s - and the rest is history. ;-)

You;re right about the size of newspapers - even our Sunday edition is a shadow of its former self - heavy only when advertisers are active. They also get upset/creative when my subscritpion is "downsized" - as I call it when I changed from daily to weekend only delivery. While it;s nice to use downsizing against "then" for a change - in the end it;s only the little people who are hurt - the delivery guy and all the people in the delivery chain have one less paper to deliver.

Even the local "Trading Post" has dropped to 1/2 of its former self. Craigslist is hurting them IMHO.

Later ya''ll - sorry to ramble so long -

Sincerely,
Larry T  (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T)
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----- Original Message ----- From: <red5hilser [at] aol.com>
To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
Cc: <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 7:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Oil company bail-out


When I broke onto the newspaper racket, when all headlines were set by hand from a 'California Job Case,' one letter at a time, and a 'snapper' was a printing press, not your girlfriend's secret muscle control trick, newsprint was $75 a metric ton. When Gannett 'retired' me in June of 1995 it was over $600 a ton, and that was over 10 years ago. I'll check with my sources for the current price, but I'm almost afraid to ask.

The amount of pages in a newspaper, and the amount of news printed is driven by advertising. As advertising linage shrinks, so does newshole. And as newsprint prices skyrocket, the percentage of advertising vs. news shrinks also. Ergo, less news staff is required to get the job done. Ever notice how many newspspers are looking like Shoppers these days?

PLUS, and it's a?BIG one, more and more 'wire copy' is used. The newspapers don't send out sports reporters to cover away games anymore, instead they?rely on AP, UPI, or other wire services that are already subscribed to. Same goes for 'hard news, too. The Orange County (CA) Register recently used a wire story about a Metrolink train wreck that happened in a L.A. suburb, and used an AP Wirephoto for the front page. In the old days, they would have sent a reporter to interview the survivors and a staff photographer. Hell, I've even seen page one bank holdups that happened in town with an AP byline. The shame of it all.

If I could look into a crystal ball and predict the future of newspapers, I would probably see that by the year 2015, 85% of all newspapers would be either in electronic form or be gone, while about 15% would be hanging on for dear life. (if there is any life left by that time.)

It don't look good, Tom.? Yer (got out in the nick of time) pal, Ferrari Bubba


-----Original Message-----
From: Tom
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Oil company bail-out



Thank you very much.  I can drive my 17.xx MPG Camaro SS and almost enjoy
it. Today the Tulsa World newspaper (note the NEWSpaper) laid off 26 people
from their NEWS department, and 2 others (no department given).
Just realized today that the International Herald Tribune is the foreign arm
of the NY Times...
Willi, Willi, whereforeartrhou?
Yours in (increasingly expensive newsprint, they say it's 50% over last
year's prices) economic hard times,
Tom Reynolds
Tulsa, OK
----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael James"
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Oil company bail-out


Oh My God.....can't you people just enjoy the low gas prices by driving your
Ferraris more like everyone else? First everyone was bitching when gas was
$4.00 + a gallon, and now that its a $1.50 you're still bitching.....GET OUT
AND DRIVE. Last time I checked, nobody from 'Big Oil' was asking Congress
for a dime - the Arab oil producers (the ones we like the least) were the
ones getting nervous as their mega-profits started to shrink. Just think -
all those SUVs are now economical to drive again.

Whaaaaaaaaa!


--- On Sun, 1/4/09, Ken Rentiers <rentiers [at] mac.com> wrote:

From: Ken Rentiers <rentiers [at] mac.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Oil company bail-out
To: "Michael" <Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 12:38 AM

On Jan 3, 2009, at 10:14 PM, Rich wrote:

WASHINGTON - Motorists are driving less and buying less gasoline,
which
means fuel taxes aren't raising enough money to keep pace with the
cost of
road, bridge and transit programs.

A roughly 50 percent increase in gasoline and diesel fuel taxes is
being
urged by the commission until the government devises another way for
motorists to pay for using public roads.

What a crock of excrement. Our cities are going broke funding pension
obligations to generations of outrageously compensated civil servants
enjoying a cushy retirement from their do-little unionized sinecures.
Teachers that didn't teach, sullen clerks a
nd hapless drivers of
broken buses.

In Texas state highways remain good to very good, but city streets
inside Houston have become studded with pavement breaks and patches,
steel plates and potholes as a result of subsidence (well water) and
complete lack of maintenance. Some streets are near-on impassable for
cars with sport suspensions and low aspect tires. I first saw this in
Manhattan years ago, spies in SoCal tell me the problem is widespread
in LA as well. Across the country our InterStates are falling apart.

Diocletian did in the Roman Empire when he abandoned their Gods. The
radical Christian sects won. Roman civil society withered, the
aqueducts dried up, roads and bridges became  unusable, halting the
import of goods and supplies. The Mediterranean trade routes which had
flourished for centuries were lost. The population had to abandon Rome
to forage in the countryside for the next 1000 or so years as
civilization ratcheted back to a feudal system of subsistence
agriculture .

I get upset when I see that our cities can no longer manage to fill
potholes, because they are so damn broke funding the accumulated
overgenerous pensions of the uncivil service. Increasing fuel taxes,
and all other taxes, is no doubt inevitable as our corrupt Washington
pols fall all over each other in an insane rush to spend more and
more trillions subsidizing their banking buddies and car manufacturers
who cannot manage to build anything anymore that anyone wants to buy.

Left untrammeled, capitalism would soon purge the incompetent,
avaricious and unsuccessful losers we call the Big Three.  By now we
would be on our way to economic recovery. In a non-union car made here
in America

Keynesian economics insists you can spend your way out of debt. This
idea was discredited years ago in previous economic disasters, but no
one teaches history anymore so who knows? Now we have elected a new
collectivist cadre intent on massive expansion of government into
every corner of the economy, using borrowed funds from hostile
countries inc
reasingly unwilling to buy our debt.

In summary: Moronic Associated Press Writer Joan Lowy! Stop parroting
the treasonous snakes in elected office and look around. I am fairly
certain that wile Rome burned an obeisant cadre of supplicant scribes
struggled to come up with ever more florid turns of latin phrase
complimenting Nero as he fiddled away.

Go Gators!

-ken-
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