Re: Ferrari goes solar!
From: Misc (misc308systems.com)
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 09:11:05 -0800 (PST)
Right on Paul,
I am a mechanical engineer and tried for 12mo to figure out a way to take
our new home as far from the electical/natural gas "grid" as possible.  All
the usual suspects: geothermal, hybrid, solar electric, solar hot water,
etc.  As a General Contractor and Internet geek, I found the best deals
possible, typically 30-50% below consumer pricing.  Even with these numbers,
and assuming natural gas here in Colorado increased in price 10%/yr,  the
geothermal system had a 25-30yr payback, with a 10yr equipment
guarantee/life, the solar electric had a 25yr payback with a 20yr panel life
and was only big enough to power 2 of our refrigerators.  The only system
with a decent(5yr) payback was solar hot water.

Thus, we now have a 3" natural gas service supporting 4 natural gas
furnaces, 400amp electrical service, and are now fully embracing the "grid",
and waiting for huge government subsidies to make us go green......

Mark Lueker
308 SYSTEMS Inc.
970-282-7006
www.308systems.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Bennett [mailto:pbennett [at] macnet.com]
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 2:10 AM
To: Mark
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari goes solar!



>http://www.greenbang.com/7172/ferrari-goes-solar-yes-the-factories-not-the-
cars/

They rarely give details about cost and pay-back dates.   Like the windmill
farms
which have require 20 years to payoff their cost and high maintenance, oh
yes,
they have an expected life of 20 years.   Roof-top hot water systems are the
only
viable energy capture device I've heard of which is actually cost-effective.
Plus the subsidies which still support ethanol was justified against $8/gal
gasoline.

Y'all hear about the Minneapolis school but debacle mandating buses use bio
fuel
which gels at winter temperatures so they now must heat the bus garages.
Net loss.

Green has always meant inexperienced and lacking wisdom.  Still holds.


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