Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Fwd: Airbus .... more bad news

[Red5hilser (Red5hilser]

Hey Hans: Hell, they even named a town in Texas after cLyDe. Even  Audie 
Murphy didn't receive an honor like that. Poor cLyDe's neck muscles must  be 
getting awful tired after 70,000 hours of checking 6! <g> But then  again, we 
mere 
mortals wouldn't have the foggiest idea, right?
 
Yer pal, Ferrari Bubba
 
 
In a message dated 2/13/2009 5:07:53 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
FList [at] hanshansen.org writes:

Hmmm.....

Let's see:  70000 hrs in 10 years works out
to  19 hours per day, every day.

I hope he's a better pilot than  mathematician.

Hans.

2009/2/13 clyde romero  <clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net>:
> Its total Bullshit
> This  guys doesn't know his ass from 3rd base.
> The Airbus has a cable rudder  and has never experienced a triple failure of
> its flight  computers
> I have been an airbus pilot since 1999 with over 70000hrs of  
319,320,321,330
> time.
> It's the safest airplane  flying
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> Clyde
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> -----Original  Message-----
> From: Rich [mailto:Rich355 [at] comcast.net]
> Sent:  Friday, February 13, 2009 4:10 PM
> To: clyde
> Cc: The  FerrariList
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Fwd: Airbus .... more bad  news
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Doug  and Terri Anderson" <dnt [at] dock.net>
> To: "Rich"  <rich355 [at] comcast.net>
> Cc: "The FerrariList"  <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:02  PM
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Fwd: Airbus .... more bad  news
>
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>> Any guesses what the culprit was on last  nights event?  Tail lock up?
>> DOUG
>>  ===============
>
> So far it has all the same indications as that  1994 ATR 72 crash in Indiana
> of loss of control over ice perhaps.  Planes slow down on final and have 
less
>
> airspeed margin  to  overcome any slight ice accumulation on lift surfaces.
> One  wing can stall before the other leading to a spin entry and   vertical
> dive like last night. If i had to bet my 401 k on it now, i  would lean to
> that cause.
> Rich
>
>> -----  Original Message -----
>> From:  <Red5hilser [at] aol.com>
>> To: "DOUG"  <dnt [at] dock.net>
>> Cc: "The FerrariList"  <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
>> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009  12:50 PM
>> Subject: [Ferrari] Fwd: Airbus .... more bad  news
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>>> Hey Capt'n cLyDe: So . . . what's  yer opinion on this. Sully did an
>>> outstanding piece of flying  to get everybody home safe and sound, IMHO.
>>> It's  not
>>> about him, but the Airbus  instead.
>>>
>>> Yer pal, Ferrari  Bubba
>>>
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>>>
>>>>From  a friend of a friend.....
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>>>  Might find this interesting about  the Airbus crash.  Got this  forwarded
>>> from
>>> a friend who has been a   lifelong pilot and aviation buff, and obviously
>>>  he
>>> got from some of his  aircraft friends.  I've  heard others complain about
>>> "fly
>>> by wire"  and  "computer controlled airplanes"............another
>>>  perspective.
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>>>  EVERYONE:  Eric is a retired US Air pilot and a judge  at OSH  each
>>> yr..and
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>>>  Interesting  what he thinks of Air Bus??? I had asked him if he knew  the
>>> pilot Sully ..  Crash
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>>>  Hello  Crash:
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>>> Actually it's Hudson   river fame.  I didn't know him.  I've seen  him  in
>>> the
>>> crew room and around the system but  never met  him.  He was former PSA
>>>  and
>>> I
>>> was  former Piedmont and we never  had the occasion to  fly together.
>>>
>>> The  dumb shit press just won't leave  this alone.  Most  airliner
>>> ditchings
>>> aren't very   successful since they take place on the open ocean with
>>>  wind,
>>> rough seas, swells and rescue boats are hours or  days  away.  This one
>>> happened in
>>>  fresh smooth water, landing  with the current and the rescue boats  were
>>> there
>>> picking  people up while they  were still climbing out of the  airplane.
>>>  It
>>> also happened on a cold winter day when  all the  pleasure boats were
>>> parked.
>>> Had this  happened  in July it would be pretty hard not to whack a  couple
>>> of
>>> little boats.  Sully did a nice  job but so would 95% of  the other pilots
>>> in  the
>>> industry.
>>>
>>> Don't be   surprised if the Airbus fly by wire computers didn't put a
>>>  perfectly good airplane in the water.   In a older  generation  airplane
>>> like the 727
>>> or  737  300/400  the throttles are hooked to the fuel controllers on  the
>>> engine by a steel throttle cable just like a TBM or  a  Comanche.  On the
>>> Airbus
>>> nothing  in the cockpit is  real.  Everything is electronic.   The
>>> throttles,
>>> rudder and brake pedals and the  side stick are hooked to  rheostats who
>>> talk  to
>>> a computer who talks to a electric  hydraulic servo  valve which in turn
>>> hopefully moves   something.
>>>
>>> In a older generation airplane when  you  hit birds the engines keep
>>> screaming
>>>  or they blow up but  they don't both roll back to idle  simultaneously
>>> like
>>> happened to Flt.  1549.  All it would take is for bird  guts to plug a
>>>  pressure
>>> sensor or knock the pitot probe off  or plug it  and the computers would
>>> roll
>>> the engines back  to  idle thinking they were over boosting because the
>>>  computers  were getting bad data.   The Airbus is a real pile  of  shit.
>>> I
>>> don't like
>>>  riding on them.
>>>
>>> Google  Airbus A320 Crash  at the Paris Airshow in  1998.  Watch the video
>>>  of
>>> an airbus A320 crash into a  forest because the  computers wouldn't allow
>>> a
>>> power  increase  following a low pass.  The computers wouldn't allow  a
>>> power
>>> increase because they determined that  the airspeed was  too low for the
>>>  increase
>>> requested so the computers didn't  give them  any.  Pushing the throttles
>>> forward in a  Airbus  does nothing more than request a power increase from
>>>  the
>>> computer.  If the computer doesn't like all the   airplane and engine
>>> parameters you
>>> don't get a  power  increase.   Airbus blamed the dead crew since  they
>>> couldn't defend themselves.  A Boeing would still  be  flying.
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