Ferrari Mailing List: Re: NFC: Comparing manual to auto trans on race track

[Michael James (cavallino_rapante]

Eh, everyone is 'in-love' with paddle-shift on the column now, it was only a 
matter of time before Porsche realized that F1-equipped Ferraris were whipping 
Porsche street cars through the gears regularly.  P had to copy F as a matter 
of pride/business or lose market-share to the 'faster' car.  Ferrari's system 
appears to be superior in shift-speed and development.  Anyone who says 
different can please show me the Porsche-designed Formula 1 car with 
paddleshifts.....
 
But I'm also to understand that Lambo, F and P 'semi-auto' trannies all have a 
'full-auto' mode as well, where the car requires no shifting input from the 
driver whatsoever and essentially operates like my Grandfather's Buick.  This 
is why we now have the Nu-Money, Paris Hiltons of the world bipping around 
Hollywood in Italy's latest when just ten years ago none of these tools knew 
how to drive these cars.....progress ain't always a 'good' thing, no?
 
M

--- On Wed, 3/11/09, Fellippe Galletta <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com> wrote:


From: Fellippe Galletta <fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] NFC: Comparing manual to auto trans on race track
To: "Michael" <Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 11, 2009, 1:55 AM


On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 1:53 AM, Michael James
<cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com>wrote:

> I think the article might be misleading because the Tiptronic transmission,
> I recall, required a semi-auto engagement of 'up' or 'down' via the
> gearlever on the floor/console.  This required the driver to remove their
> hand from the wheel to shift, losing driver focus to fumble with a
> narrow-gated lever out of the field of view.  It is/was almost as bad
> as Ferrari's Valeo system - we all know how successful THAT was.
>
> I also recall the driver not having full-use of the rev range of the engine
> with the Tiptronic tranny, when the revs reached a certain value, the car
> up/down shifted automatically regardless of driver intent as a matter of
> preservation, so taking the car to max-revs before shifting
> wasn't possible.  I never saw a Tip-equipped Porsche do well on the re-sale
> market, and everything I've read or heard about them from owners said 'shite
> box'....YMMV.
>
> M
>

Mike,

I'm with you on the hating of the porsche tiptronic and semi-autos in
general....but the amount of new 911 turbos sold with this "PDK"
transmission is staggering. I think it's something like 30-40%....a lot of
people have them.

FG
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