Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Mercedes Benz Durability for the Record

[LS (lashdeep]

Mauricio, agree on most of your points. On a semi related tangent...

The sad fact is that the 80s and 90s are gone. The new German stuff is "fairly 
well built" but nothing can touch an E30 BMW or W123 MB for construction.

1989-
    Euro-excellent materials, excellent build/reliability
    Japanese-decent materials, excellent build/reliability
    Domestic-Mostly CRAP

2009-
    Euro-excellent materials, decent build/reliability
    Japanese-excellent materials, excellent build/reliability
    Domestic-(Caddie/Corvette/Big Trucks/Mustang/Viper/G8/etc.) are way above 
Euro and just     a step down from Japanese

For some reason, the public isn't getting this message though. 

I just spoke with an enthusiastic E92 M3 owner last week. He also has an E39 M5 
and openly admitted that it's had a lot of repairs (VANOS, front control arms, 
assorted electrical glitches, clutch problems) all after only 85k miles. He 
chalks up the design deficiencies as "maintenance".  He bought it because of 
various E30 and E34 BMWs he's had. He asked me about my CTS-V and without 
hesitation commented that he wouldn't buy American because of a bad experience 
with a 1989 Pontiac Sunbird.

It's more about car religion than actual science or tech unfortunately. This is 
the buyer thought process and mentality car makers have to deal with today. 

God bless them.

LS

 


----- Original Message ----
From: Mauricio Mesa <mesa_mauricio [at] yahoo.com>
To: LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: The FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 10:48:11 AM
Subject: [Ferrari] Mercedes Benz Durability for the Record


I have to clarify things a bit for the record.  While BMW and Audi make highly 
technological advanced vehicles.  Mercedes Benz decade after decade has made 
the most dependable/durable vehicles of the three car makers.  The Mercedes 
Benz quality only went down after it was purchased the merger with Chrysler, I 
guess they began cutting corners.  The proof is that way more Mercedes Benz' 
remain on the road that are used as daily drivers no matter if they are 10, 20, 
30 years old versus the other German car makers.  So while some of us may have 
preferences to a certain car model because its sportier or more technologically 
advanced, there is a reason why some of the other German car makers mainly 
lease their cars with their fabulous maintenance and warrantly packages but 
after that 5 or 6 year period most of their cars lose most of their value and 
end up more than other car makers as parts cars because they are not built to 
last beyond 8 years or so. 
 In my
household we have 4 Benzes from the 80s and 90s that get daily driver use with 
little if any problems and everything is pretty straight forward to fix as 
compared to others.      


      
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