Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Diffuser design and ease of overtaking

[ItsmeMrWright (ItsmeMrWright]

Don' they sell those at Pep Boys with the Wing?


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scare kids, like the boogeyman or Michael Jackson."
Bart  Simpson


In a message dated 4/30/2009 5:52:34 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
lashdeep [at] yahoo.com writes:


Hall  had 'em first in the mid 60s!

I want to install a foot pedal for aero  devices onto my minivan.



----- Original Message ----
From:  "red5hilser [at] aol.com" <red5hilser [at] aol.com>
To: LS  <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: billynmiki [at] roadrunner.com; Staxwax [at] aol.com;  ItsmeMrWright [at] 
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ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com; Rexnbutchie [at] aol.com
Sent:  Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:41:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Diffuser design  and ease of overtaking

WOW! I can't believe modern technology. Movable  wings? What will they
think of next??

Oh, wait . . . I remember seeing  the three Mercedes SLR cars at the 1955
LeMans doing about 180 MPH, lined up  nose to tail like a big freight
train?at the end of the back straight with  their big rear wings suddenly 
flipping
downward to help slow them  down.

That was back in the day that the term, 'pulling a train' had a  much more
simple and innocent meaning. <g>

And didn't Jim Hall  have a similiar device?sticking up on the back of his
Chaparrals back in the  late '60s??or was that just a flashback from the
greatful Dead concert that I  went to the weekend before the Race??

I guess the old song was right  after all. 'Everything old is new again.'

Yer pal in East Jesus,  Arkansas, Ferrari Bubba


-----Original Message-----
From: Tulsa  Tommy
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Diffuser design and ease of  overtaking



Yeah, that was cool.  I believe one of the  teams, perhaps Red Bull, has a
movable front wing, but they can't really  get both halves of the wing
segment to move at *exactly* the same  time.
Tom Reynolds
Tulsa, OK
----- Original Message -----
From:  "Bruce
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Diffuser design and ease of  overtaking


> Did you see the segment on the movable front wing  flap done by Jock
> Clear of Brawn GP? He indicated that the drivers can  use the flap to
> increase front down force in order to get closer in  the curves and then
> slingshot pass on the straights.
>
>  Bruce
>
> Rick Lindsay wrote:
> > Do recall that although  Matchett is smart, his analysis is just an
opinion.  If the diffuser  makes it harder to draft - which we are only
assuming - its a by-product of  increased under-body down-force, not an
anti-drafting device.  That's  a lot of hyphenated words in one sentence!
> >
> >  Rick
> >
> >
> > --- On Tue, 4/28/09, Tom Reynolds  <kjtar [at] cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> From:  Tom Reynolds <kjtar [at] cox.net>
> >> Subject: [Ferrari]  Diffuser design and ease of overtaking
> >> To: "rolindsay"  <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com>
> >> Cc: "The FerrariList"  <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> >> Date: Tuesday, April 28,  2009, 7:42 PM
> >> The Speed commentators were saying that the  double level
> >> diffusers make
> >> pasing more  difficult-they say the air is disturbed which
> >> negates what  the
> >> Sporting Regulations attempted to do-make  overtaking
> >> easier-in this example.
> >> So, why  did the Court of Appeal decide to declare the
> >> diffusers used  by
> >> Williams, Toyota, and Brawn not in violation?  Maybe  they
> >> didn't violate the
> >> letter of the law,  but, given the information above, I
> >> would say they
>  >> certainly violate the spirit.  Now, when everyone gets
>  >> their modified
> >> diffusers on their cars, overtaking  will, according to what
> >> I heard during
> >> the  Bahrain Grand Prix, more difficult.  More difficult
> >> than  last year?
> >> Don't know.  More difficult than was planned  for this
> >> season?  Yep
.
> >>  So...?
> >> Tom Reynolds
> >> Tulsa, OK
>  >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Mike  Fleischer"
> >> <themightytoe [at] gmail.com>
> >>  To: <kjtar [at] cox.net>
> >> Cc: "The FerrariList"
>  >> <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> >> Sent: Monday, April  27, 2009 1:03 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] SPOILER: Did anyone  see the F1 race
> >> this past
> >> weekend?
>  >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> No  kidding,
> >>>
> >>> I haven't enjoyed F1 racing  this much, well ever
> >>>
> >> really...
>  >>
> >>> The amount of passing, the fact that the TV  coverage
> >>>
> >> has trouble keeping
>  >>
> >>> up with the action, the text showing  position
> >>>
> >> constantly being  slightly
> >>
> >>> out of date...
>  >>>
> >>> Some of the moves these drivers put on each  other...
> >>>
> >> Man I'd swear they
>  >>
> >>> all were going to start chewing tobacco if  they
> >>>
> >> didn't have to turn
>  >>
> >>> right once in a while...  That is  racing.  The
> >>>
> >> Schumacher years,  you
> >>
> >>> watched for who survived the  accidents at the 1st
> >>>
> >> corner, then it was  a
> >>
> >>> parade to the end of the  race...
> >>>
> >>>
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  SNIP<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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