Re: I am w/ Phil - Gas Mileage
From: Rick Lindsay (rolindsayyahoo.com)
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 10:30:44 -0700 (PDT)
I agree.  Just don't let anyone tell you that the oil companies are alone in 
this game.  Its not us against them.  It us against EVERYONE.


--- On Wed, 5/20/09, Mauricio Mesa <mesa_mauricio [at] yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Mauricio Mesa <mesa_mauricio [at] yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] I am w/ Phil - Gas Mileage
> To: "Rick Lindsay" <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com>
> Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 12:23 PM
> It's not just supply and demand that dictates oil prices
> look at Enron with the illegal market making practices where
> they coerced power outages at California energy plants
> during the summer months to make it seem like it was caused
> by the heat and limited power grid capacity, so their 
> traders would make the big bucks on predictions of price
> junps.  Last year after the government began having
> Congressional hearings about market manipulation of oil
> prices by commodity traders, the oli prices went down.  It
> used to be Capitalism but its now much more about who owns
> whom, that is the market.   
> 
> --- On Wed, 5/20/09, Rick Lindsay
> <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > From: Rick Lindsay <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] I am w/ Phil - Gas Mileage
> > To: "Mauricio Mesa"
> <mesa_mauricio [at] yahoo.com>
> > Cc: "The FerrariList"
> <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> > Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 12:31 PM
> > 
> > 
> > Disagree.  The buyers want big vehicles and they want
> > big power.  The oil campanies are selling everything
> > they produce.  Oil price is not easily predicted by
> > supply and demand but America's car-buying public
> still has
> > a taste for big and strong.
> > 
> > rick - in Texas
> > 
> > --- On Wed, 5/20/09, Mauricio Mesa
> <mesa_mauricio [at] yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > From: Mauricio Mesa
> <mesa_mauricio [at] yahoo.com>
> > > Subject: [Ferrari] I am w/ Phil - Gas Mileage
> > > To: "rolindsay"
> <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com>
> > > Cc: "The FerrariList"
> <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> > > Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 9:55 AM
> > > Reality is that the monopolies in the Oil &
> Gas
> > Energy
> > > Sector don't want the technology to be
> implemented
> > and
> > > through Special Interest lobbying have so far
> gotten
> > away
> > > with it.  Lets not be naive here.  
> > > 
> > > Message: 5
> > > Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 20:34:12 -0400
> > > From: "philville dejazzd.com"
> > > <philville [at] dejazzd.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Say goodbye to your
> SUV's : BO
> > > just made them
> > >     extinct
> > > To: LarryT <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
> > > Cc: The FerrariList
> <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> > > Message-ID:
> <dbc55331ba1f4a6.4a1317c4 [at] dejazzd.com>
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> > > 
> > > 
> > >    I say BS, if you all think that creative
> > thinking has
> > > been encouraged
> > >    and allowed to produce what we want and
> > what we need  
> > > then you need
> > >    to get your head out of the sand. There
> > is no doubt in
> > > my mind that
> > >    the ability to move a 4000 lb. car at
> > highway speeds
> > > comparable to our
> > >    current usage and at mileage above 50
> > mpg. The problem
> > > being that
> > >    those who control the technology are
> > those who did not
> > > want this. Why
> > >    would they?
> > > 
> > >    "Never did like the idea of govt
> deciding
> > what kind
> > > of cars we'll
> > >    have.  If a large part of the public
> > wants electric cars
> > > there would be *someone* producing them."
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >       
> > >
> >
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