Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Fw: Re: NFC Say goodbye to your SUV's : BO just madethem extinct

[Tom Reynolds (kjtar]

I look in car mags printed in and for (largely) Europe/UK and online as
well, the cars available there and not here, and I just get so mad, why the
hell can't I get, for example, a Renault Clio Sport V6 in the states?
There are safety and emission standards for the EU that are in some ways
more strict than what we have in the U.S.  Maybe Fiat will bring some small
fun economical fun cars in if they merge with Chrysler, or maybe Ford will
see the light and bring in some of their sporty Focus models, etc.
Or maybe I'll just wake up and realize it's just a dream.
Oh well. Had 5 teeth extracted today, upper immediate denture, not feeling
too bad, all things considered.  Now if I had something to smile about...
:(
tomintulsa
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Conforti" <lndshrk [at] xmission.com>
To: <kjtar [at] cox.net>
Cc: <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Fw: Re: NFC Say goodbye to your SUV's : BO just
madethem extinct


> At 08:01 AM 5/21/2009, you wrote:
> >Jim, I'm just shaking my head at this one.....YOU PROVED MY POINT.
>
>    And how did I do that Michael?
>
>    The numbers clearly show in black and white that as of last month
>    Both GM and Ford are selling more TRUCKS/SUVS than Honda/Toyota
>    are selling CARS.
>
>    In fact, GM "Light Trucks" sold more than ANYTHING else by ANY
>    manufacturer in the Car/Light Truck category.
>
>    Oh, but wait - it doesn't fit your pre-conceived notions
>    so you'll dance around the issue endlessly.
>
>    (Loony Lib argument tactic #71 - if you have screwed up and gotten
caught
>     in your lies - keep moving the target and dancing around until you
>     are either right (and say "HA!") or you tire out your opponent.
>     Reserve "I'm TIRED OF POLITICS ON THIS LIST" for last ditch efforts)
>
>    Oh, and that BLOG you linked - was cars selling ALLTIME - in the WORLD.
>
>    (As is the opinion of some random computer programmer in India!)
>
>    The presence of the Nissan SUNNY and the LADA RIVA should have
>    given that away.  They've never been sold in the USA.
>
>    As has been the case for YEARS, large vehicles outsell SMALL vehicles
>    in the USA.  Many of the vehicles we drive here wouldn't even FIT on
>    the roads in the rest of the world.
>
>    BTW - so the rest of you can see this list - those who(m) are too lazy
>    to click the link - here is the verbatim list from the BLOG (of some
>    random computer programmer from India) Michael is quoting.
>
>    1) Toyota Corolla  (note: not Corolla/Camry)
>    2) Ford F Series
>    3) Volkswagen Golf (one must presume they are also including the
Rabbit)
>    4) Volkswagen Beetle
>    5) Ford Escort
>    6) Honda Civic
>    7) Ford Model T
>    8) Nissan Sunny/Sentra/Pulsar/Tsuru
>    9) Volkswagen Passat
>   10) Lada Riva
>
> And here are the current US sales as of Apr 2009 courtesy of Autodata
>
>    Apr 2009
> General Motors Corp. 172,150
>    Total Cars . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 71,775
>    Total Light Trucks . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 100,375
>      memo: Saab. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 892
> Ford Motor Company 133,979
>    Total Cars . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 55,067
>    Total Light Trucks . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 78,912
>      memo: Volvo. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4,503
> Chrysler LLC 76,682
>    Total Cars . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15,558
>    Total Light Trucks . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 61,124
> Toyota Motor Sales U.S.A. Inc. 126,540
>    Total Cars . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 77,851
>    Total Light Trucks . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 48,689
> American Honda Motor Co. Inc. 101,029
>    Total Cars . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 67,514
>    Total Light Trucks . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 33,515
> Nissan North America Inc. 47,190
>    Total Cars . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 30,249
>    Total Light Trucks . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 16,941
> Volkswagen Group of America Inc. 23,441
>    Audi . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
7,010
>    Volkswagen. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 16,289
>    Bentley . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 112
>    Lamborghini  (Estimate) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
30
> Mitsubishi Motors N. A., Inc. 3,919
>    Total Cars . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,689
>    Total Light Trucks . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,230
> Mazda Motor of America Inc. 16,139
>    Total Cars . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11,377
>    Total Light Trucks . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4,762
> Hyundai Motor America 33,952
>    Total Cars . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 27,406
>    Total Light Trucks . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6,546
> BMW of North America Inc. 19,393
>    BMW . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
15,705
>    Mini . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3,657
>    Rolls Royce . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 31
> Daimler AG 15,927
>    Mercedes-Benz . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
> . . . . . 14,575
>    Maybach. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7
>    Smart. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,345
> Subaru of America Inc. 15,649
>    Total Cars . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9,127
>    Total Light Trucks . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6,522
> Kia Motors America Inc. 25,606
>    Total Cars . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 16,588
>    Total Light Trucks . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9,018
> Isuzu Motors America Inc. 0
> American Suzuki Motor Corp. 2,543
>    Total Cars . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 473
>    Total Light Trucks . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,070
> Jaguar Land Rover N.A. LLC 3,324
>    Jaguar. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,281
>    Land Rover. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2,043
> Porsche Cars N.A. Inc. 1,853
>    Total Cars . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 967
>    Total Light Trucks . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 886
> Ferrari of N.A. Inc. 116
> Maserati of N.A. Inc. 108
>
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