Re: Check Engine Light (Cyl. 7-12) - 512TR -- Prize goes to Clyde
From: Larry B (larrybardhotmail.com)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 12:01:14 -0800 (PST)
I'm sure they would have given me the old sensor if I had asked for it -- but 
frankly I don't know what the point would have been; it's not as if the defect 
would have been apparent, and I while I obviously am not pleased with the 
price, I don't have any reason to doubt their honesty or competence (which is 
another subject altogether; I know there are lots of totally competent 
independents, but someone else mentioned to me that this dealer has 4 Ferrari 
master mechanics -- of the total of 30 in the entire U.S.).

 

And if I were sure in advance that the problem was an O2 sensor, perhaps I 
would have tracked down the part, for a more modest price, and had some 
competent independent install it.  But (despite Clyde's educated guess), I 
didn't in fact know that to be the case.

 

Tom and Mike have given examples of dirt cheap (relative to what I was charged) 
prices for O2 sensors for other cars.  But I haven't heard anyone say that the 
actual sensor for my car is even close to those prices.  Anyone know what a 
more competitive price for the correct sensor is?  I've heard that sensors for 
some modern cars, e.g., Audis, do run at least $2xx.
 
> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 14:06:21 -0500
> From: kjtar [at] cox.net
> To: larrybard [at] hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Check Engine Light (Cyl. 7-12) - 512TR -- Prize goes 
> to Clyde
> CC: ferrarilist [at] ferrarilist.com
> 
> Did they offer to give you the old 02 sensor? How about the box from the new 
> part? Nice of them to give you the pre-December price, as it was in their 
> stock and purchased at the "old" price. I know people have posted Bosch p/n 
> cross reference lists, would think they'd be available online or maybe one of 
> the parts gurus could run the p/n and get the applications. Next time. Larry, 
> find a good independent, like a good dentist. 
> All the best,
> Tom in Tulsa
> 
> ---- Larry B <larrybard [at] hotmail.com> wrote: 
> > 
> > That's even more depressing than the $80 Mike said one cost for his car.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Not only was the price $338.87 (not including tax), but they told me that 
> > the price had just gone up to over $500 in December -- but they were giving 
> > me the pre-increase price. Wow, must have been my lucky day.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 13:18:25 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Check Engine Light (Cyl. 7-12) - 512TR -- Prize goes 
> > to Clyde
> > From: pokiebaron [at] gmail.com
> > To: larrybard [at] hotmail.com
> > CC: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
> > 
> > Think I paid about $35 for a Bosch O2 for my old 911. Bet they rounded off 
> > the "work" to the nearest hour too. hee hee
> > 
> > Ed
> > 911SC
> > 
> > 
> > 2009/12/3 Larry B <larrybard [at] hotmail.com>
> > 
> > 
> > Well, Clyde's hypothesis was correct -- it was the O2 sensor. Of course, 
> > having had the dealer troubleshoot the problem (downloading the codes, 
> > etc.) and fix it, the work was far from cheap. The price of the Os sensor 
> > was a particular surprise -- not that I have a sense of what they cost for 
> > "ordinary" cars. But I believe it's a Bosch part, and quite possibly used 
> > by other cars. Makes me wonder if I could have purchased one that worked, 
> > though intended for another car -- and whether a dealer would agree to 
> > install a part they didn't provide (with their customary parts margins).
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Larry
> > 
> > 
> > > ------Original Message------
> > > From: Larry B
> > > To: Clyde Romero
> > > Cc: The FerrariList
> > > Subject: [Ferrari] Check Engine Light (Cyl. 7-12) - 512TR
> > > Sent: Nov 16, 2009 12:22 PM
> > >
> > >
> > > Once again the warning light has appeared. If there isn't any noticeable 
> > > adverse effect on performance (no missing, unusual sounds, atypical gauge 
> > > readings), am I correct that (1) it's probably a loose wire and (2) no 
> > > harm will probably result from driving it (at least 10 miles to my 
> > > dealer, or another competent mechanic)?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Larry
> > 
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