Ferrari Mailing List: Re: The clYde testimonial

[philville (philville]

I am now in clYdes corner, take the emotion out of the purchase. but first 
before you eveluate why ( or why not) you are willing to support the vendors 
continued existence, ask your self if it means any thing to you. If it does, 
let them have some profit, if it doesn't, ( their continued existence) let them 
decide if your offer is acceptable, they do not need to take it if it is not of 
value to them.

I have a small handfull of friends/clients/ customers who ever have been 
concerned about my ( business / financial) well being........they know who they 
are, and I hope they know that I will all ways do my best for them.
--
Phil
Philip A Tegtmeier
39 Churchill Drive 
Elverson Pa 19520
610.525.8949
philville [at] dejazzd.com

When you have a minute, check out; 
www.radnorconcours.org

And of course, go to;
www.philvilleUSA.com

---- Michael James <cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com> wrote: 
> Well, this is where Clyde and I part company, slightly - I realize that the 
> Dealership must make a profit if it is to stay in-business.  SO, when buying 
> from an established business, you have to add a few $K to the price offer to 
> cover what the buyer percieves is the 'added value' of buying from a business 
> vs. buying from a private seller.
>  
> If you buy from a private seller, then ABSOLUTELY offer wholesale value - 
> that's exactly what the dealership would give the seller if the seller tries 
> to trade-in the car on another model.....
>  
> M 
> 
> 
> --- On Tue, 2/2/10, philville [at] dejazzd.com <philville [at] dejazzd.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: philville [at] dejazzd.com <philville [at] dejazzd.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] The clYde testimonial
> To: "Michael" <Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com>
> Cc: "'The FerrariList'" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 12:00 PM
> 
> 
> After having spent 50 + years in and around the world of buying and selling 
> automobiles, it takes an Airline Capt. 2 weeks to finally get it through my 
> head that ones perception of treating others "fairly" ( my terminology ) is 
> just a crock of s***, in order for fair to work it needs to work both ways 
> and have a bearing on future business.......which it does not.
> Hence forth, fairness is in the eye of the behoder of the check book, 
> Thanks Clyde, ....lets have lunch.....
> --
> Phil
> Philip A Tegtmeier
> 39 Churchill Drive 
> Elverson Pa 19520
> 610.525.8949
> philville [at] dejazzd.com
> 
> When you have a minute, check out; 
> www.radnorconcours.org
> 
> And of course, go to;
> www.philvilleUSA.com
> 
> ---- clyde romero <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net> wrote: 
> > A testimonial I Love it!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > CLYDE
> > 
> > Capt. Clyde Romero Jr.
> > MANPAD SME 
> > Clyderomero [at] bellsouth.net
> > Mobile 678 641 9932
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> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim W. [mailto:jimshadow [at] verizon.net] 
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:08 AM
> > To: Clyde
> > Cc: 'The FerrariList'
> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] After-action report on 2007 F430
> > 
> > This is a good reminder that this list ROCKS!!!
> >  
> > I used cLyDe pricing recently to buy my Wife a pre-owned Mercedes GL450.  
> > About 10months ago we were going to trade in our Honda Odyssey for another
> > one when I noticed my wife making comments about how sharp she thought the
> > GL450 SUV on the road next to us was.  Long story short, we found ourselves
> > taking home a GL450 for the weekend to 'test drive'.   Of course she fell in
> > love with it, but I was not going to pay the $48K the dealer was asking for
> > it  (2007 w/39,000 miles) even if it once retailed for $80K.   When it came
> > time to make the offer, I told them that I would pay $37K given that they
> > had taken the car in on lease turn in the day before, had ZERO advertising
> > dollars in it and had 3 other used ones on the lot. At first the manager
> > seemed offended, then they counter offered at $42K.   I politely told them
> > that I had the funds available and would gladly produce a check for $37K.  
> > When they would not let us leave, I knew I had them.   They ultimately came
> > down to $37,500.  I explained to them that while I am a huge supporter of
> > local business, I could buy a GL450 all day long on the net for $37K.   I
> > told them that I was going to keep looking and to have a nice night.   The
> > conversation ended with them handing over the keys to my wife, who continues
> > to absoutely love her car. 
> >  
> > Keep up the fight Jim, you'll get your 430 at your price!
> >  
> > JIM
> > 
> > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, clyde romero <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > From: clyde romero <clyderomerof4 [at] bellsouth.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] After-action report on 2007 F430
> > To: "JIM" <jimshadow [at] verizon.net>
> > Cc: "'The FerrariList'" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> > Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 7:26 AM
> > 
> > 
> > That's CLYDE pricing and that's how I bought my 512 TR years ago Money talks
> > and BS walks Atta boy Ken
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > CLYDE
> > 
> > Capt. Clyde Romero Jr.
> > MANPAD SME
> > Clyderomero [at] bellsouth.net
> > Mobile 678 641 9932
> > 
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> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul K Rentiers [mailto:rentiers [at] me.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 6:25 AM
> > To: Clyde
> > Cc: The FerrariList
> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] After-action report on 2007 F430
> > 
> > Once I bought a pickup. It was a new model, and the huge dealer only had two
> > in on the vast lot, out of literally a thousand cars baking in the hot Texas
> > sun. All those units sitting there making interest for the local bank on the
> > floor plan. They wanted $32,000. I offered $28,000. Nope.
> > 
> > The salesman started into his time worn, hours-long routine. I stopped him.
> > Wrote out a check for $28,000 and dropped it on the desk. "If your manager
> > changes his mind give me a call" I said, "Cash it or tear it up. I'm going
> > home to dinner" (it was after work). And I left. 
> > 
> > Took me 30 minutes to drive to the house. The phone rang as I was pulling up
> > the driveway. 
> > 
> > There are lots of 430s out there. Will this work for Jim? I don't know. But
> > if anyone has the cojones to drop a $140,000 check on the guy's desk and
> > walk out I think Conforti does. Forget that they are assholes, they have a
> > clock in their head and every time the phone rings they wonder if the bank
> > is calling. 
> > 
> > Besides it is too much fun to watch the look on the guy's face when you
> > actually leave.
> > 
> > the kenverine
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Feb 1, 2010, at 9:21 PM, Fellippe Galletta wrote:
> > 
> > > On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Jim Conforti <lndshrk [at] xmission.com> 
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > >> Well,
> > >> 
> > >> Went in and offered them what I thought was a fair offer.
> > >> 
> > >> (effectively $140k, likely too much - but still)
> > >> 
> > >> Their response was to come down from $159.9 to $157k.
> > >> 
> > >> LOL
> > >> 
> > > 
> > > Of course....knew there was a very good chance of this happening.
> > > 
> > > I see the dealer experience as wonderful for those with tons and tons 
> > > of money and valuing convenience over all else.
> > > 
> > > I guess there are plenty of those that fit that category to a tee and 
> > > the dealer is waiting for that person to show up and buy that 430 at
> > $155k...
> > > 
> > > Good luck Jim....I'm sure you'll find your car soon!
> > > 
> > > FG
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