Re: 599
From: philville (philvilledejazzd.com)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:11:24 -0700 (PDT)
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---- Larry B <larrybard [at] hotmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> I'm very interested in what you think would be the best ones for track use?  
> I know that there are several listers, and of course other owners, who have 
> tracked their 512TRs, but that has little or no appeal for me (except insofar 
> as I could hear the engine wail at some place like the Glen.)  My track car 
> (and daily driver) is a 993, which I think is just right for me, but I've 
> been curious about red alternatives.
>  
> 
> 
> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 12:19:31 -0400
> From: pokiebaron [at] gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] 599
> CC: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
> To: larrybard [at] hotmail.com
> 
> I think the cars of today, like the 599, demand more and more HP for bragging 
> rights.  Most who buy them can't really drive them, so they then need to 
> develop ways to keep cars with 600HP out of the ditch, with such things as 
> traction control, paddle shifts that protect from downshifting at the wrong 
> time and change gears in such a way to make most think they are way better 
> than they really are.  I think cars like the 599 would be much more enjoyable 
> to the enthusiast, if they had 100-150 LESS hp, and a manual box.  End of the 
> day, the 599 is a GT car, and no "trackie" is going to opt for one.  They may 
> take it out on the odd DE day just to stretch it a bit, but there are far 
> better tools for track use.  Therefore, 600HP in what is a road going GT car 
> is a bit over the top.  You're also fueling a car 100% of the time, that will 
> spend 99% of it's life using less than 200-300HP at any given time.  I know, 
> fuel isn't a big deal with a 599 owner, but such things are becoming a pain 
> for manufactures. 
> 
> Having said all that, I don't own, haven't driven, and probably never will, a 
> 599, so my my opinions are worth pretty much nothing. hee hee
> 
> Ed
> 911SC
> 
> 
> On 14 June 2010 10:19, Mike Fleischer <themightytoe [at] gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> So you would rather drive, say a Miata?
> 
> :)
> 
> Totally understand though. A car like that needs to frighten you a bit.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> Peter Pless wrote:
> >
> > 600hp. YepâBUT to get a thrill out of it you HAVE to drive it at
> > insane speeds. Thatâs just not doable in this day and age. At any
> > other speed its competence makes it as good as driving an SL55 or
> > something. Big deal.
> >
> > *From:* Mike Fleischer [mailto:themightytoe [at] gmail.com]
> > *Sent:* Sunday, 13 June 2010 11:49 PM
> > *To:* Peter Pless
> > *Cc:* 'The FerrariList'
> > *Subject:* Re: [Ferrari] 599
> >
> > Ha,
> >
> > I abhor boredom (and automatics), but how could it be boring with 600+
> > prancing horses under the hood? Surely you could find some
> > entertainment there?
> >
> > I mean I remember driving a dealer's Mas 3200GT paddle shifter at TWS
> > (he told me to take some students and go flog on it a bit)... While I
> > was not overwhelmed by the car, it was still not boring :) Maybe you
> > just need to get it a bit more sideways?
> >
> > Peter Pless wrote:
> >
> > Me. The car is perfect and perfectly boring. JMO
> >
> > Butâ.fantastic car just the same. Couldnât fault anything about it,
> > unless you dislike boredom J
> >
> > *From:* Fellippe Galletta [mailto:fellippe.galletta [at] gmail.com]
> > *Sent:* Sunday, 13 June 2010 11:35 AM
> > *To:* Peter Pless
> > *Cc:* The FerrariList
> > *Subject:* [Ferrari] 599
> >
> > Curious....who here has driven it?
> >
> > Nobody ever really talked about the way this thing drives and the power.
> >
> > -- FG
> >
> >
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