Re: The car club massacre in 3 parts (Little to noFerrariContent)
From: Erik Nielsen (judge4regmail.com)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 09:28:11 -0700 (PDT)
Some people like that lifestyle and aim for it, otherwise they
wouldn't sell.  But just because people do it, doesn't make it right.
A lot of people smoke crack afterall...

On 6/23/10, JAshburne [at] aol.com <JAshburne [at] aol.com> wrote:
>
> While looking at potential second homes in Florida a few years ago, we
> really liked one golf course community that was part of the TPC Sawgrass
> complex  in Ponte Vedra Beach.  We looked at several nice houses until the
> realtor
>  mentioned that one of the HOA rules was that you could only have your
> garage  doors open for as long as it took to get your car into or out of the
>
> garage.
>
> My wife and I took one look at each other and said "See ya for this
> neighborhood!"
>
> Certain HOA rules may be tolerable but this HOA wanted to control
> everything about your property.  I'm surprised that they didn't have a
> dress code
> for when you are in your back yard.  Or maybe they do.
>
>
> In a message dated 6/23/2010 12:44:46 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> dnt [at] dock.net writes:
>
> HOA's -  oh boy.  Our wooden fences were painted a tanish color.  I got
> notice to paint ours.  I did I had some simi gloss exterior paint I  used
> to
> paint the underside of the 66 VW - - Sea Sand.  It was pretty  close to
> original fence color.  Then there was a big stink about the  color was
> wrong.
> I told them the guys fence across the street was faded  and I had my VW
> painted to match the fence.  Wha ? ? ?    No, really - the guys across the
> street fence is faded - THIS is the  correct color.  Oh, uh, ok.  And that
> was the end of the  story.  Heck
> DOUG
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:  "Charles Perry" <charles [at] carolina-sound.com>
> To: "DOUG"  <dnt [at] dock.net>
> Cc: <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Sent: Tuesday,  June 22, 2010 6:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] The car club massacre in 3  parts (Little to
> noFerrariContent)
>
>
> Interesting. In my old  neighborhood, having a garage full of exotics meant
> to the HOA that there  was no end to the number of $25 fines you must be
> able
> to pay for such  hateful crimes as exposing a garbage can or having a
> mailbox
> that was  slightly the wrong shade of green.
>
> Hence our recent  move...
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Erik Nielsen  [mailto:judge4re [at] gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 6:10 PM
> To:  Charles Perry
> Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] The car  club massacre in 3 parts (Little to
> noFerrari
> Content)
>
> We still  care, but there is more of a live and let live view here.
> House prices in  my neighborhood are in the 180/sqft range, so we're not
> what
> everything  thinks we are. But having talked to my HOA, if you have a
> garage
> full of  Ferraris, you either are a flesh eating lawyer or know one and are
> left  alone.
>
> On 6/22/10, Michael James <cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com>  wrote:
>> I tend to agree, but Alabama land values don't approach MA land  values
>> - when they do, you'd care a great deal about what your  neighbor
>> chooses to 'plant' in their front yard, especially if the  Home
>> Appraisers claim that it affects the value of YOUR property.  Hence,
>> the current situation in many neighborhoods across the  country.
>>
>> M
>>
>>
>> --- On Tue, 6/22/10, Erik  Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Erik  Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] The car club  massacre in 3 parts (Little to no
>> Ferrari Content)
>> To:  "Michael" <Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com>
>> Cc:  ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
>> Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 5:25  PM
>>
>>
>> Stuff like this will never happen in fly over  country, one of the
>> advantages of being an Alabama  redneck.
>>
>> On 6/22/10, JAshburne [at] aol.com  <JAshburne [at] aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Jeff
>>>
>>> Sorry but I liked the original garbled one  better! Then again, I was
>>> in high school in the late  60's....
>>>
>>> Sorry to hear about all of your troubles with  the local zoning board.
>>> They are definitely  over-reaching.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> In a  message dated 6/22/2010 11:05:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>  coyote [at] acme-ltd.com writes:
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry about  the incoherent message below. My email client crashed
>>> yesterday,  and somehow parts of another message got intertwined with
>>> this  one. The message below should have read:
>>> Yup, home of Norman  Rockwell. The town has taken great pains to keep
>>> main street  looking like it did the painting.
>>> They even go so far as to  re-enact the Christmas scene from the
>>> painting every  year.
>>> Also, this was the setting for the Alice's Restaurant  Massacre by
>>> Arlo Guthrie. Not much has changed in 40 or so  years.
>>> If you (or anyone else) knows any homies that want to spend  some
>>> time out east, let me know :-)  Jeff
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Jeff Greenfield  [mailto:coyote [at] acme-ltd.com]
>>> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 7:39  PM
>>> To: Jeff Greenfield
>>> Cc: The FerrariList
>>>  Subject: Re: [Ferrari] The car club massacre in 3 parts (Little to
>>>  noFerrari Content)
>>>
>>>
>>> Doug  -
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yup, home of Norrman  Rockwell. The town has taken  great
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you return it, I need  it back in the same box. (or I could keep
>>> the box here to male it  easierpains to keep main street looking like
>>> it did the  painting.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> They even go so far  as to re-enact the Christmas scene from the
>>> painting every  year.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, this was the  setting for the Alice's Restaurant Massacre by
>>> Arlo Guthrie. Not  much has changed in 40 or so  years.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you (or anyone else)  knows any homies that want to spend sometime
>>> out east, let me know  :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Jeff
>>>
>>> Sent from my  iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 21, 2010, at 6:48 PM, "Doug  and Terri Anderson"
>>> <_dnt [at] dock.net_
>>>  (mailto:dnt [at] dock.net) >  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sort of an open letter.  Stockbridge, MA? Isn't that where Norman
>>> Rockwell spent his later  years? Later years painting and selling
>>> from his studio beside his  house? My my. Seems that if Norman were
>>> still around to paint  Americana as the old Post magazine and others
>>> would have us  believe it to be - Ol' Jeff woulda been one of the
>>> central  characters. How things have changed. Maybe we can
>>> transport a  hundred or so rival genuine gang members from Los
>>> Angeles - ya  know, like the Crips or Bloods or 18th Street Gang back
>>> to the old  neighborhood - ya know, put the word "hood" back in
>>> neighborhood.  See if they dare reenact the Christmas Street Scene
>>> painting of  1957 (?). Bet the grisly ol bunch of town folk would
>>> beg Jeff to  have his "gang" back. Eh? I dunno, I could be wrong.
>>>
>>>  Onward
>>>  DOUG
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----  Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: _Jeff Greenfield_  (mailto:coyote [at] acme-ltd.com)
>>>
>>> To: _DOUG_  (mailto:dnt [at] dock.net)
>>>
>>> Cc: _The FerrariList_  (mailto:ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com)
>>>
>>> Sent: Monday, June  21, 2010 9:16 AM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] The car club  massacre in 3 parts (Little to
>>> noFerrari  Content)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Rob -
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We've filed the appeal  with the court in Boston.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The  appeal process could take a year or  more.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We do not live in a  gated community, these are private homes in a
>>> heavily wooded  area.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We are in Stockbridge,  MA.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Other developments are  we're getting some help from Hagerty and the
>>> HVA  (_www.historicvehicle.org_ (http://www.historicvehicle.org/) ).
>>>  They are also doing a story for their newsletter about  this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There is also an  editorial appearing in vintage Motorsport
>>>  (_www.vintagemotorsport.com_ (http://www.vintagemotorsport.com/)  )
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Jeff
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my  iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 21, 2010, at 12:17 AM,  "Robert W. Garven Jr."
>>> <_rgarven [at] gmail.com_
>>>  (mailto:rgarven [at] gmail.com) > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>  Jeff,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Any new news regarding  your neighbors? What state are you in, do
>>> you live in a gated  community?
>>>
>>> Hope everything resolves  itself.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Rob
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Robert W. Garven Jr.
>>>
>>> _rgarven [at] gmail.com_  (mailto:rgarven [at] gmail.com)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  "The Ferrari is a dream - people dream of owning this special
>>>  vehicle and for most people it will remain a dream apart from for those
>
>>> lucky few".
>>> Enzo  Ferrari
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  On May 30, 2010, at 6:43 PM, Jeff Greenfield  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The following appeared  over the past 3 days at
>>>  _http://justacargeek.blogspot.com_
>>>  (http://justacargeek.blogspot.com/)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Part 1: _http://tinyurl.com/29ykgrd_  (http://tinyurl.com/29ykgrd)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Part 2: _http://tinyurl.com/257ru6b_  (http://tinyurl.com/257ru6b)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Part 3: _http://tinyurl.com/23dcs9l_  (http://tinyurl.com/23dcs9l)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Please feel free to distribute this to as many people, car clubs,
>>>  auto enthusiasts, email lists, collectors, and hobbyists as  possible.
>>> This could easily happen to any of  us.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, this is a true  story.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If this finds its way  to anyone in the media who is interested in
>>> doing a story about  this please contact me at
>>> alfaguy(at)_acme-ltd.com_
>>>  (http://acme-ltd.com/)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Jeff
>>>
>>>
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