Re: The car club massacre in 3 parts (Little to noFerrariContent)
From: JAshburne (JAshburneaol.com)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 09:17:18 -0700 (PDT)
While looking at potential second homes in Florida a few years ago, we really liked one golf course community that was part of the TPC Sawgrass complex in Ponte Vedra Beach.  We looked at several nice houses until the realtor mentioned that one of the HOA rules was that you could only have your garage doors open for as long as it took to get your car into or out of the garage.
 
My wife and I took one look at each other and said "See ya for this neighborhood!"
 
Certain HOA rules may be tolerable but this HOA wanted to control everything about your property.  I'm surprised that they didn't have a dress code for when you are in your back yard.  Or maybe they do.
 
 
In a message dated 6/23/2010 12:44:46 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dnt [at] dock.net writes:
HOA's - oh boy.  Our wooden fences were painted a tanish color.  I got
notice to paint ours.  I did I had some simi gloss exterior paint I used to
paint the underside of the 66 VW - - Sea Sand.  It was pretty close to
original fence color.  Then there was a big stink about the color was wrong.
I told them the guys fence across the street was faded and I had my VW
painted to match the fence.  Wha ? ? ?   No, really - the guys across the
street fence is faded - THIS is the correct color.  Oh, uh, ok.  And that
was the end of the story.  Heck
DOUG


----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Perry" <charles [at] carolina-sound.com>
To: "DOUG" <dnt [at] dock.net>
Cc: <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] The car club massacre in 3 parts (Little to
noFerrariContent)


Interesting. In my old neighborhood, having a garage full of exotics meant
to the HOA that there was no end to the number of $25 fines you must be able
to pay for such hateful crimes as exposing a garbage can or having a mailbox
that was slightly the wrong shade of green.

Hence our recent move...



-----Original Message-----
From: Erik Nielsen [mailto:judge4re [at] gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 6:10 PM
To: Charles Perry
Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] The car club massacre in 3 parts (Little to noFerrari
Content)

We still care, but there is more of a live and let live view here.
House prices in my neighborhood are in the 180/sqft range, so we're not what
everything thinks we are. But having talked to my HOA, if you have a garage
full of Ferraris, you either are a flesh eating lawyer or know one and are
left alone.

On 6/22/10, Michael James <cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> I tend to agree, but Alabama land values don't approach MA land values
> - when they do, you'd care a great deal about what your neighbor
> chooses to 'plant' in their front yard, especially if the Home
> Appraisers claim that it affects the value of YOUR property. Hence,
> the current situation in many neighborhoods across the country.
>
> M
>
>
> --- On Tue, 6/22/10, Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Erik Nielsen <judge4re [at] gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] The car club massacre in 3 parts (Little to no
> Ferrari Content)
> To: "Michael" <Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com>
> Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
> Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 5:25 PM
>
>
> Stuff like this will never happen in fly over country, one of the
> advantages of being an Alabama redneck.
>
> On 6/22/10, JAshburne [at] aol.com <JAshburne [at] aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> Sorry but I liked the original garbled one better! Then again, I was
>> in high school in the late 60's....
>>
>> Sorry to hear about all of your troubles with the local zoning board.
>> They are definitely over-reaching.
>>
>> John
>>
>> In a message dated 6/22/2010 11:05:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> coyote [at] acme-ltd.com writes:
>>
>>
>> Sorry about the incoherent message below. My email client crashed
>> yesterday, and somehow parts of another message got intertwined with
>> this one. The message below should have read:
>> Yup, home of Norman Rockwell. The town has taken great pains to keep
>> main street looking like it did the painting.
>> They even go so far as to re-enact the Christmas scene from the
>> painting every year.
>> Also, this was the setting for the Alice's Restaurant Massacre by
>> Arlo Guthrie. Not much has changed in 40 or so years.
>> If you (or anyone else) knows any homies that want to spend some
>> time out east, let me know :-) Jeff
>>
>>
>> From: Jeff Greenfield [mailto:coyote [at] acme-ltd.com]
>> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 7:39 PM
>> To: Jeff Greenfield
>> Cc: The FerrariList
>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] The car club massacre in 3 parts (Little to
>> noFerrari Content)
>>
>>
>> Doug -
>>
>>
>>
>> Yup, home of Norrman Rockwell. The town has taken great
>>
>>
>>
>> If you return it, I need it back in the same box. (or I could keep
>> the box here to male it easierpains to keep main street looking like
>> it did the painting.
>>
>>
>>
>> They even go so far as to re-enact the Christmas scene from the
>> painting every year.
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, this was the setting for the Alice's Restaurant Massacre by
>> Arlo Guthrie. Not much has changed in 40 or so years.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you (or anyone else) knows any homies that want to spend sometime
>> out east, let me know :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Jun 21, 2010, at 6:48 PM, "Doug and Terri Anderson"
>> <_dnt [at] dock.net_
>> (mailto:dnt [at] dock.net) > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Sort of an open letter. Stockbridge, MA? Isn't that where Norman
>> Rockwell spent his later years? Later years painting and selling
>> from his studio beside his house? My my. Seems that if Norman were
>> still around to paint Americana as the old Post magazine and others
>> would have us believe it to be - Ol' Jeff woulda been one of the
>> central characters. How things have changed. Maybe we can
>> transport a hundred or so rival genuine gang members from Los
>> Angeles - ya know, like the Crips or Bloods or 18th Street Gang back
>> to the old neighborhood - ya know, put the word "hood" back in
>> neighborhood. See if they dare reenact the Christmas Street Scene
>> painting of 1957 (?). Bet the grisly ol bunch of town folk would
>> beg Jeff to have his "gang" back. Eh? I dunno, I could be wrong.
>>
>> Onward
>> DOUG
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: _Jeff Greenfield_ (mailto:coyote [at] acme-ltd.com)
>>
>> To: _DOUG_ (mailto:dnt [at] dock.net)
>>
>> Cc: _The FerrariList_ (mailto:ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com)
>>
>> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 9:16 AM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] The car club massacre in 3 parts (Little to
>> noFerrari Content)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Rob -
>>
>>
>>
>> We've filed the appeal with the court in Boston.
>>
>>
>>
>> The appeal process could take a year or more.
>>
>>
>>
>> We do not live in a gated community, these are private homes in a
>> heavily wooded area.
>>
>>
>>
>> We are in Stockbridge, MA.
>>
>>
>>
>> Other developments are we're getting some help from Hagerty and the
>> HVA (_www.historicvehicle.org_ (http://www.historicvehicle.org/) ).
>> They are also doing a story for their newsletter about this.
>>
>>
>>
>> There is also an editorial appearing in vintage Motorsport
>> (_www.vintagemotorsport.com_ (http://www.vintagemotorsport.com/) )
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Jun 21, 2010, at 12:17 AM, "Robert W. Garven Jr."
>> <_rgarven [at] gmail.com_
>> (mailto:rgarven [at] gmail.com) > wrote:
>>
>>
>> Jeff,
>>
>>
>>
>> Any new news regarding your neighbors? What state are you in, do
>> you live in a gated community?
>>
>> Hope everything resolves itself.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Robert W. Garven Jr.
>>
>> _rgarven [at] gmail.com_ (mailto:rgarven [at] gmail.com)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "The Ferrari is a dream - people dream of owning this special
>> vehicle and for most people it will remain a dream apart from for those
>> lucky few".
>> Enzo Ferrari
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 30, 2010, at 6:43 PM, Jeff Greenfield wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> The following appeared over the past 3 days at
>> _http://justacargeek.blogspot.com_
>> (http://justacargeek.blogspot.com/)
>>
>>
>>
>> Part 1: _http://tinyurl.com/29ykgrd_ (http://tinyurl.com/29ykgrd)
>>
>>
>>
>> Part 2: _http://tinyurl.com/257ru6b_ (http://tinyurl.com/257ru6b)
>>
>>
>>
>> Part 3: _http://tinyurl.com/23dcs9l_ (http://tinyurl.com/23dcs9l)
>>
>>
>>
>> Please feel free to distribute this to as many people, car clubs,
>> auto enthusiasts, email lists, collectors, and hobbyists as possible.
>> This could easily happen to any of us.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, this is a true story.
>>
>>
>>
>> If this finds its way to anyone in the media who is interested in
>> doing a story about this please contact me at
>> alfaguy(at)_acme-ltd.com_
>> (http://acme-ltd.com/)
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
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